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  • DreamFighter
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    #181
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    I think he's locked to get into the IBHOF let's face it. .
    but based on what?

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      #182
      Originally posted by DreamFighter
      but based on what?
      I'm not saying that's necessarily my view but he'll make it for certain is my point. He's been a champion for a very long time, has made a ton of defenses and has done so in an exciting and dominant style whilst being one of the most popular entertainers in the sport. All of that will add up.

      His competition is solid but not special but I think all the numbers, the fashion of the victories etc; will get him a plaque no matter what happens in his next fight.

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        #183
        Originally posted by j0zef
        Think you missed the point of this article. It's not about how great and awesome and ATG he is.

        The author is simply stating that right now is the most Golovkin will ever be appreciated in his career by most casual fans, and he's right. Just like he says, a win over Canelo would just prove what the vast majority thought. "but in the general public’s eyes the best case scenario is a confirmation of what they already thought: GGG is better than Canelo."

        As for the new blood in the division, real boxing fans know that they're dangerous, however none of them have a resume and are all 100% unproven. If he beats Charlo, Derevyanchenko and Murata by 1st round KOs, nobody will remember who these guys were in 3 years.
        "Wins over the remaining crop of contenders—Jermall Charlo, Billy Joe Saunders and Sergiy Derevyanchenko—would be incredibly impressive to the readers of this website, but probably not to the general public"


        Overall Erdman is 100% correct in his assessment of the casual fan. However most people here are not casual fans and do not give a **** what they think. I want to see these fights. Whether or not most fools will forget them in 3 years or not means nothing to me.
        You missed the point, lil g aint ****. Is that clear cut to the point?

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          #184
          Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake
          You are on crack if you think canelo or kd jacobs won those fight, no one thinks that only you, put the pipe down. and dont even bring up charlo lol it took him 12 rounds to deal with Vanes. lol put it down
          Shows you to slow to score a fight & you got the wrong Charlo that fought vanes....LOL....this is too easy.

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            #185
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            I'm not saying that's necessarily my view but he'll make it for certain is my point. He's been a champion for a very long time, has made a ton of defenses and has done so in an exciting and dominant style whilst being one of the most popular entertainers in the sport. All of that will add up.

            His competition is solid but not special but I think all the numbers, the fashion of the victories etc; will get him a plaque no matter what happens in his next fight.
            9 defences s not enough. 4 years is solid elite but not enough for "fame". you need a record or near miss to achieve fame.
            though I am sure he will get more.

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              #186
              Originally posted by DreamFighter
              9 defences s not enough. you need a record to achieve fame.
              though I am sure he will get more.
              The thing is it's seen and interpreted that he has 20 defenses. That counts more than what you think when it comes to historical context and what will go on the paper.

              He has also got a tied record for most consecutive KO's in title fights too at 17. Tied with Wilfredo Gomez.

              Those things will add up.

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                #187
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                He needs to unify against Saunders and become undisputed. If he beats Canelo in the rematch that needs to be his goal. From there he should defend against Charlo and Andrade even though they haven't fought anyone yet. Hopefully between now and next year they will have fought a top 5 MW.
                lil g protection act in process.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by King GGG
                  The article compares him to the ATG Lebron James easily the best basketball player of all time there is no question about that and Golovkin is in similar thread to such athletes, Golovkin can easily go down as one of the best boxers to ever grace that ring!

                  Lebron and Golovkin are both finished articles almost, neither have anything left to prove they've already done it all and the sooner these bitter ass salty haters deal with it the better, Golovkin and Lebron careers are already are that of legends.
                  lil g is a fake. Bron is for real.

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by j.razor
                    lil g is a fake. Bron is for real.
                    LeGGG show

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by chrisJS
                      I think he's locked to get into the IBHOF let's face it. The guy's in no matter how much people want to deny it. I don't think it's right to view him as a great fighter in a historical sense yet. Canelo and Jacobs are good wins but he needs a bit more because the drop off after those two is big and those two while good fighters are not special fighters either.

                      Perhaps an emphatic win like a KO in a Canelo re-match would solidify him as a generational great. To be considered an historically great fighter if he can get out of the division without losing and defeats Saunders to complete the set and maybe knock off a guy like Devreychenko, Andrade or Charlo then I'd say he's a truly great fighter and arguably a top 10 middleweight in history.

                      160 is historically great. I'm not even sure if Hopkins would rank in it's top 10. Monzon and Hagler IMO are both clearly top 5 but Hopkins' reign without Tito was a lot of crap.
                      You praise lil g but trash B-Hop? Goes to show....

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