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  • R_Walken
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    #91
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Did Joshua say he'd give up control? I must have missed that.

    No meetings, no contract. Impossible to make a fight without. You know that, Wilder knows that and his team know that, but all of you want to act dumb.
    I think when you publicly state give me 50 mil and I’ll take th deal no questions asked you realize that by doing that your giving up control

    You don’t get the highest guaranteed offer from the other side and still get to dictate terms

    Don’t be ******ed Robbie Parrott

    No meeting needed before you say yes to the offer after that sit down iron out the details

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    • sportbuddha
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      #92
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      Here is the thing...they aren't asking for a verbal or contractual obligation for all fight details. Just a verbal acknowledgement that the details presented are agreeable.

      As I said in the other thread, Hearn basically took 15 minutes to arm fans with reasons why he doesn't have to put forth more than minimal effort to make the fight.

      Both sides are posturing. One side is posturing to push the fight to 2019.
      Not if $50m is genuinely on the table. Hearn's just playing it cool, he would have had his time wasted many many times in the past, he's said as much in relation to Wilder before. So, he's not jumping around excitedly accepting something from someone he doesn't trust without some more substance.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        We shall see! What we know is Wilder was offered a $12.5 flat-fee, and AJ was offered a $50 million dollar guarantee. There were no contracts with either offer, no dates, no venues, etc., with either offer. Seems you trust Hearn, and I trust Haymon and Finkel. My guys have been doing this a little longer than your guy. I'm just sayin'!
        Its not about trusting , its about common sense .


        A.J was offered NO contract , Wilder WAS .


        We know Hearn has been told he had a deadline today ,to agree too ...


        Sorry theres nothing really to justify with Finkels actions ....


        1 . No ACTUAL counter offer for 2 weeks .

        2 . Cancelled meetings .

        3. Reluctance to meet and discuss .

        4 . A deadline that wasn't realistic .

        5 . Team Wilder spreading rumors about a 48 hr . deadline by Hearn which isn't true be hes STILL pursuing THAT negotiation . lol

        6 . Dibella stating negotiations dont take place on social media then they expect Hearn to do exactly that .


        Really they DONT want the fight .......THIS year !

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          #94
          Originally posted by sportbuddha
          Yeah cos really smart people do deals on Instagram. Calm yourself down, they are not scared, they will sign if it's real. Wilder is going to wish he had a rematch clause, he doesn't even realise he might even end up with less money for his biggest fight of his career and stagnant career as his years advance, will serve him right for fighting bums for 39 fights.
          put your money where mouth is which is in your a$$!

          How you wanna do this chump? Western union? Escrow?
          Paypal?
          Check order?
          Wire transfers?

          Let's make a pot, my money on Wilder by KO and let's sweeten the deal, whoever predicts the closest outcome of the fight gets extra!?

          Let's roll mate!

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          • kafkod
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            #95
            Originally posted by uppercut510
            "give me $50 mill and ill sign the fight" - Anthony "the A side" Joshua
            Nobody has given AJ a dime. All he has is a tweet from Wilder and a message from Shirley Winkle saying they won't talk to his promoter about it.

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              #96
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              Its not about trusting , its about common sense .


              A.J was offered NO contract , Wilder WAS .


              We know Hearn has been told he had a deadline today ,to agree too ...


              Sorry theres nothing really to justify with Finkels actions ....


              1 . No ACTUAL counter offer for 2 weeks .

              2 . Cancelled meetings .

              3. Reluctance to meet and discuss .

              4 . A deadline that wasn't realistic .

              5 . Team Wilder spreading rumors about a 48 hr . deadline by Hearn which isn't true be hes STILL pursuing THAT negotiation . lol

              6 . Dibella stating negotiations dont take place on social media then they expect Hearn to do exactly that .


              Really they DONT want the fight .......THIS year !
              This year, next year or the year after. That 50 mil offer will need to be explained. Because it's going to be brought up. They ****ed up trying bluff.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                This year, next year or the year after. That 50 mil offer will need to be explained. Because it's going to be brought up. They ****ed up trying bluff.
                IDK , im not ready to dive in that far .


                One has to THINK they must have some money IF Hearn pursues the topic ?


                One things for sure team Wilder doesn't want the Joshua fight now .

                The only thing i will hope for is big Breazeale to land one of those thudding shots and end all this .....


                Im tired of Wilder and his mental midgets . Screw the superfight , Wilders mouth doesn't stop . lol

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                • kafkod
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by R_Walken
                  I think it’s more flexing on Finkell / Haymons part and letting Hearn know he played himself and is a crumb compared to them. So either accept the offer your fighter said he wanted which is also the highest HW guarantee of all time and give up control of the biggest financial fight or shut the f.uck up and start with the excuses that everyone knows will be BS

                  Hearn went on for months basically calling Dibella who was once head of HBo boxing and a top promoter in the sport a f.ucking PBC lackey

                  Shelly Finkel who ls been involved in the biggest fights in the sport and is a HOFer was a old nobody who wasn’t even given the respect from Hearn to call him by his name and not worthy to have a discussion about the fight with

                  And from all indication Hearn pulled a fast one on Haymon when it came to Danny Jacobs

                  And even through all that they still sat back and let Hearn provide a initial offer where he’d have all the control for the fight which was a pathetic low ball one, where he wouldn’t even consider a % to Wilders team basically take it or leave it

                  These guys after all that were probably like fine you want to play hard ball. Let’s go suck a d.ick take this offer but your not even worth our time so take it or leave it peasant you don’t run sh.it except your mouth
                  Hearn and AJ arn't ****** enough to accept an offer from anybody without knowing the details. And AJ is big enough to make another $50million for himself this year without any help from broke Al and Shirley Winkle.

                  Like Hearn said, if they throw out an offer like that then refuse to discuss it with him, all they are doing is making themselves look like idiots.

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                    #99
                    What I've seen by negotiations before, including Joshua-Parker, is that they agree on the money BEFORE anything else, then sit down to discuss the rest. Wilder's team is just asking Hearn to agree to the money split stipulated by Joshua and then they will sit down to discuss the details, what's the problem with this? And if the money isn't there just fall back and call their ****, no problem. JUST MAKE THE FIGHT!!!!!

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      IDK , im not ready to dive in that far .


                      One has to THINK they must have some money IF Hearn pursues the topic ?


                      One things for sure team Wilder doesn't want the Joshua fight now .

                      The only thing i will hope for is big Breazeale to land one of those thudding shots and end all this .....


                      Im tired of Wilder and his mental midgets . Screw the superfight , Wilders mouth doesn't stop . lol
                      Fitty meeyon doe .. assep my oefer.

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