Comments Thread For: Hearn: Unless $50M Offer is Bluff, Wilder's Team Must Meet Me!

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  • juggernaut666
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    #101
    Originally posted by Just looking
    What I've seen by negotiations before, including Joshua-Parker, is that they agree on the money BEFORE anything else, then sit down to discuss the rest. Wilder's team is just asking Hearn to agree to the money split stipulated by Joshua and then they will sit down to discuss the details, what's the problem with this? And if the money isn't there just fall back and call their ****, no problem. JUST MAKE THE FIGHT!!!!!
    You realise Hearn had multiple meetings with team Parker right ? And took months to sort out the money .


    Finkel is NOT willing to have a meeting and flip flopped on the meeting altogether and thats bc there is OBVIOUSLY details that they dont wish to discuss , either that or they really dont have the money ? Pick one .

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    • Bronx2245
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      #102
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      Its not about trusting , its about common sense .


      A.J was offered NO contract , Wilder WAS .


      We know Hearn has been told he had a deadline today ,to agree too ...


      Sorry theres nothing really to justify with Finkels actions ....


      1 . No ACTUAL counter offer for 2 weeks .

      2 . Cancelled meetings .

      3. Reluctance to meet and discuss .

      4 . A deadline that wasn't realistic .

      5 . Team Wilder spreading rumors about a 48 hr . deadline by Hearn which isn't true be hes STILL pursuing THAT negotiation . lol

      6 . Dibella stating negotiations dont take place on social media then they expect Hearn to do exactly that .


      Really they DONT want the fight .......THIS year !
      It is about trust! 99% of the time, a flat-fee offer is used to get out of fights, not make fights!

      The games being played and why it means Joshua-Wilder won't be next
      by Dan Rafael ESPN
      April 16, 2018:

      If Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs) wants the fight with Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) next, it sure doesn't seem that way, regardless of what he says. It's clear in the offer Joshua's promoter, Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

      Of course, $12.5 million large is giant money for most people, but for a fight of this magnitude, it is not a serious offer. If Wilder's team -- managers Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel and Jay Deas and promoter Lou DiBella -- accepted the deal, they would be committing malpractice on behalf of their client.

      For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event. Wilder is worth more than that, obviously; he brings the last piece of the undisputed title to the table, he brings a bigger fan base and, on his own, he generates more money than Parker does.

      If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

      http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ean-fight-next

      I think I'll trust Dan on this one!

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      • Just looking
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        #103
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        You realise Hearn had multiple meetings with team Parker right ? And took months to sort out the money .


        Finkel is NOT willing to have a meeting and flip flopped on the meeting altogether and thats bc there is OBVIOUSLY details that they dont wish to discuss , either that or they really dont have the money ? Pick one .
        You realise you are lying right? We all saw this here, the back and fort with the split, then when the money was right they met. Not before, Parker's promoter only flew to UK after the money was sorted out.
        Again, there is no need to take months to sort out the money as Wilder's team offered exact what Joshua himself asked, Joshua himself said he would accept right away.
        Last, Finkel and Haymon are doing this hard approach to show Hearn his place in this game, but his pride and greed are getting in the way.
        At least say it, you don't want to see your guy knocked and that's why you are coming with all these excuses

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        • EnglishOxide
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          #104
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          I think I'll trust Dan on this one!

          The same biased and hypocritical Dan who criticised Spike O Sullivan for NOT accepting a flat fee for Golovkin?

          Gotcha.

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          • Kris Silver
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            #105
            Originally posted by lizard_man
            Wow you're a dumb fck. They just want Hearn to agree to what HE ASKED for. What happened to the whole "I'll sign same day for $50M"

            Agree to the money, then they can sit down and sort the rest of the details.
            Sign what?

            Deontays napkin?

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            • herb666
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              #106
              Hearn will not agree. I bet he believes AJ should make around 100M. Pathetic.

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              • Califire209
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                #107
                Wow I don't remember Hearn and AJ acting like this when they wanted to fight Charles Martin for the IBF strap. You're lying when you say you want the fight against Wilder that's why you offered him a ****y deal of 12.5m flat fee. AJ ran his mouth and said he would accept 50 million,, well here it is so accept it so you can sit down and make the FKN fight.
                Hearn is full of shyt acting like Al Haymon can't back up his words.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by uppercut510
                  aj said giver him 50 mil and he would sign not 50mil and a meeting
                  Yeah but he has a right to see the contract and how legit the money is. It's weird that they aren't even willing to meet to even go over the contract.

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                  • robbyheartbaby
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                    #109
                    If this is real, even if Hearn didn't want the fight, any man in their right mind would take $50m! Where is that cash coming from, hope it's legit!

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                    • smooovey
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                      #110
                      Aj has said "lets roll" meaning yes so the teams need to meet to nut out a contract. Whould agree to the fight in writing without knowing a dam thing about the conditions, venue date etc. Filkle is dumb to think aj and his team will agree blindly so meet and get it done! Finkle needs to stop being a ckck and the only 1 stopping things proceeding!

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