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  • WesternChamp
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    #81
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Depends how you define bum. He was never a threat to Floyd IMO (and others) but that doesn't mean he was a bum.

    Well he is ranked there by the TRBR board and Cliff here on NSB. If you disagree, fine. Every credible ranking has him top 2.

    IMO that is because he has won multiple titles in multiple divisions and just got finished cleaning out JMW, not because he beat a name.

    He has defeated no WW. He is #1 WBO based on their rules about champions moving up.

    Yes Bob does, the facts support that statement. he is moving Manny toward an in house CW fight-Loma-rather than the in house fight in the weight class manny is at-Crawford.
    so no more "world tour"??? LOL

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      #82
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Lets look at the facts. Crawford is Horn's mando because the previous WBO WW champ, Mannny, ducked fighting him for reasons discussed in this thread, and fought Horn instead of Crawford.

      Manny lost the fight. now Crawford is getting the shot he earned against the guy Manny fought instead of fighting him.

      That isn't Crawford being protected, that is him getting screwed and then getting what he he already earned.

      Play ****** all you want.
      so crawford vs spence/thurman shouldnt be a problem next right???

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        #83
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        You can keep posting it, it will never make it true. Bob protected Manny. You see it you just will not admit it.

        This is what happens when you fall so deep in love with an athlete that you can't admit they are not as good as you fantasize and dream they are.

        Its gotten so bad that you want to just plug in names of other guys even though the facts refute your opinions.

        Sad!
        and bob is protecting crawford. cant have it both ways.

        crawford is fighting jeff horn next. that should tell you enough.

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          #84
          Originally posted by WesternChamp
          so no more "world tour"??? LOL
          Depends where the fight is. If it's outside the US I don't see how you can say no more world tour. Now if it's in the US and Manny pays his taxes, then the world tour may be stopped.

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            #85
            Originally posted by JLC
            Well, it’s kind of the promoters job to look ahead and map out a fighters career path and secure the next steps. It isn’t like Crawford is having sit downs with Arum and Khan negotiating a fight. As long as the fighter and trainers are focused on Horn, I don’t see why the promoters need to be sitting on their hands waiting on the fight to be over before reaching out to potential opponents.
            What I was thinking. Promoters should be thinking a couple fights down the road. Anthony Joshua's crew was looking at both Parker and Wilder time frames when Joshua was fighting Takem. It is not a big thing at all.

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              #86
              The hypocrisy

              Big dumb was backing last two fights and never had a go at him ducking spencer or Thurman lmao

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                #87
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Depends where the fight is. If it's outside the US I don't see how you can say no more world tour. Now if it's in the US and Manny pays his taxes, then the world tour may be stopped.
                but i thought you said bob is keeping pac away from crawford because of "world tour" ... lol..

                now you're saying bob is gonna set up pac vs loma. ??

                so keeping pac away from crawford for the "world tour" is just the usual bs from you right?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by WesternChamp
                  so crawford vs spence/thurman shouldnt be a problem next right???
                  common sense tells you it would be seeing as how thurman and spence will unify before Crawford and the winner unifies

                  Originally posted by WesternChamp
                  and bob is protecting crawford. cant have it both ways.

                  crawford is fighting jeff horn next. that should tell you enough.
                  Uhh yes you can because they are 2 different fighters in 2 different positions at 2 different stages of their careers.

                  Just because Bob had to protect Manny from Floyd, Zahir raheem and Crawford it doesn't mean he is protecting Crawford from Spence and Thurman.

                  Floyd, raheem and Crawford are all bigger men with as much speed and a far longer reach. The style they employ has always been difficult for Manny to deal with. He likely would lose all 3 fights so It made financial sense to delay or avoid these fights.

                  Crawford is the better boxer out of he, Thurman and Spence even though he is smaller. He likely beats Thurman and many think he'd beat Spence. So Bob has no reason to keep them from Crawford-unless he wants to keep Crawford's earnings low, which is another discussion.

                  It's a simple matter of style matchups and economics-not topics I'd expect a pac fan to have an educated opinion on relative to why fights do and don't get made.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Depends where the fight is. If it's outside the US I don't see how you can say no more world tour. Now if it's in the US and Manny pays his taxes, then the world tour may be stopped.
                    since you keep avoiding it.

                    crawford vs spence or thurman shouldnt be a problem next right???

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      common sense tells you it would be seeing as how thurman and spence will unify before Crawford and the winner unifies



                      Uhh yes you can because they are 2 different fighters in 2 different positions at 2 different stages of their careers.

                      Just because Bob had to protect Manny from Floyd, Zahir raheem and Crawford it doesn't mean he is protecting Crawford from Spence and Thurman.

                      Floyd, raheem and Crawford are all bigger men with as much speed and a far longer reach. The style they employ has always been difficult for Manny to deal with. He likely would lose all 3 fights so It made financial sense to delay or avoid these fights.

                      On the flip side, Crawford is the better boxer than both Thurman and Spence even though he is smaller. He likely beats Thurman and many think he'd beat Spence. So Bob has no reason to keep them from Crawford-unless he wants to keep Crawford's earnings low, which is another discussion.

                      It's a simple matter of style matchups and economics-not topics I'd expect a pac fan to have an educated opinion on relative to why fights do and don't get made.
                      so crawford vs spence or thurman should be no problem next right??

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