Comments Thread For: Horn's Promoter Rips Top Rank For Approaching Crawford-Khan

[WesternChamp]

Because they are 2 different fighters at 2 different stages of their careers.

Crawford is the top p4p boxer in the world. Manny is not.

I say Manny is scared and avoiding because he is not fighting ANY top WW's, he is instead fighting Horn and now Lucas.

Manny is on the way out, that is why Bob is protecting him from Crawford-because Crawford accelerates Manny's departure from the sport through a brutal beating.

Bob likes to do in house fights but I hope he gets out of the way and lets Crawford v Thurman/Spence winner happen without interference.

when floyd vs manny was being talked about in 09, manny was a bum then?

so crawford is the p4p best in the world? who has he beat?

who has crawford fought as a top ww? he's fighting horn next instead of spence, thurman. you know, the guys that manny is afraid of LOL!!!

so now bob likes to do in house fight but yet he's keeping manny away from crawford? LOL!! you cant have it both ways

[boliodogs]

I think it's funny as hell that Horn gets no respect and everyone but team Horn looks right through him as if Crawford beating him is a given. Horn deserves no respect. He won the title on a home country robbery and he doesn't deserve to be a world champion and is not a world champion level boxer. Pacquiao turned down the rematch because Horn insisted it be in Horn's back yard again and Pacquiao had enough of that. Horn made his first defense against an easy cherry pick. Now Horn's promoter is furious that Arum is looking right past Horn. If Horn can beat Crawford outside of his back yard then he earns respect. I think Crawford will knock him out and Horn's days as a world champion will be over permanently.

[The Big Dunn]

im using the same logic apply to pac. deal with it.

The same logic doesn't apply.

so crawford is being protected then. spence out there, thurman out there. is horn the only one with the belt?

im glad manny passed on the rematch. not a good look being protected.

Spence has a fight against his mando next. Crawford is Horn's mando and they fight in June. Thurman got hurt again.

The facts don't support your assertion that Crawford is being protected.

[WesternChamp]

The same logic doesn't apply.



Spence has a fight against his mando next. Crawford is Horn's mando and they fight in June. Thurman got hurt again.

The facts don't support your assertion that Crawford is being protected.

yes it does. same promotor, the same guy who was "protecting" manny lmao!!!


so there should be no problem for crawford vs spence or thurman next then right????

[WesternChamp]

The same logic doesn't apply.



Spence has a fight against his mando next. Crawford is Horn's mando and they fight in June. Thurman got hurt again.

The facts don't support your assertion that Crawford is being protected.

of course it does. he's fighting jeff horn next. easiest way to get that belt.

[The Big Dunn]

when floyd vs manny was being talked about in 09, manny was a bum then?

so crawford is the p4p best in the world? who has he beat?

who has crawford fought as a top ww? he's fighting horn next instead of spence, thurman. you know, the guys that manny is afraid of LOL!!!

so now bob likes to do in house fight but yet he's keeping manny away from crawford? LOL!! you cant have it both ways

Depends how you define bum. He was never a threat to Floyd IMO (and others) but that doesn't mean he was a bum.

Well he is ranked there by the TRBR board and Cliff here on NSB. If you disagree, fine. Every credible ranking has him top 2.

IMO that is because he has won multiple titles in multiple divisions and just got finished cleaning out JMW, not because he beat a name.

He has defeated no WW. He is #1 WBO based on their rules about champions moving up.

Yes Bob does, the facts support that statement. he is moving Manny toward an in house CW fight-Loma-rather than the in house fight in the weight class manny is at-Crawford.

[The Big Dunn]

of course it does. he's fighting jeff horn next. easiest way to get that belt.

Lets look at the facts. Crawford is Horn's mando because the previous WBO WW champ, Mannny, ducked fighting him for reasons discussed in this thread, and fought Horn instead of Crawford.

Manny lost the fight. now Crawford is getting the shot he earned against the guy Manny fought instead of fighting him.

That isn't Crawford being protected, that is him getting screwed and then getting what he he already earned.

Play ****** all you want.

[ceylon mooney]

arum ****blocked crawford-pacquiao for a few years--why? the possibility of
crawford losing. couldnt riak that. hence bradley-pacquiao 3, the LEAST popular
option at the time the entire
boxin world was
sayin pacquiao-crawford.

yea arum likes in house. so does DLH & haymon. lotta promoters do. theres some control over the outcome. maintaining control over
your investment is good business, tho in the ling term is still killing
boxing in the US.

but now its
clear
there aint much risk of crawford losin. so arum is milking pacquiao as best he can. and, as he lep bud away from manny
now he sure as **** will keep manny away from bud. pacquiao can generate ****tonsnof $$$ in his twilight. crawford now would possibly derail that. its VERY likely crawford
would deal out a NASTY stoppage and rethink pacquiaos extended twilight career for him. hey, itd
b fine for pacquiaos final fight if pacquiao didnt mind takin a
savage beating, which is a real risk.

horn is in-house, BTW. arum aint gonna randomly hand horn a multimillion dollar career and refuse any influence or control over his career.

ALL of this is basic and plain as
day. i think its hard to not
notice. the entire thing doesnt carefully fall exactly into the best interests of arum by sheer accident.
the only wild card
seems to be pacquiao suddenly going off the reservation on career
decisions like hes done a bit lately.

[The Big Dunn]

yes it does. same promotor, the same guy who was "protecting" manny lmao!!!


so there should be no problem for crawford vs spence or thurman next then right????

You can keep posting it, it will never make it true. Bob protected Manny. You see it you just will not admit it.

This is what happens when you fall so deep in love with an athlete that you can't admit they are not as good as you fantasize and dream they are.

Its gotten so bad that you want to just plug in names of other guys even though the facts refute your opinions.

Sad!

[WesternChamp]

Depends how you define bum. He was never a threat to Floyd IMO (and others) but that doesn't mean he was a bum.

Well he is ranked there by the TRBR board and Cliff here on NSB. If you disagree, fine. Every credible ranking has him top 2.

IMO that is because he has won multiple titles in multiple divisions and just got finished cleaning out JMW, not because he beat a name.

He has defeated no WW. He is #1 WBO based on their rules about champions moving up.

Yes Bob does, the facts support that statement. he is moving Manny toward an in house CW fight-Loma-rather than the in house fight in the weight class manny is at-Crawford.

you said different fighters at different stage of their career.

you said crawford is p4p the best right now so there is no need to protect him. that's why i asked you when floyd vs pac talk was going on in 09, was pac a bum then?