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  • Shadoww702
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    #151
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=740286

    Nobody knew Martinez knee was gone like that until he stepped into the ring with Cotto. So we, the fans, assumed Cotto would've been the easier fight and then GGG next. But once we saw him in the ring with Cotto we knew he would've never survived against GGG.
    Thanks for reminding me ahole!!!! J/K

    But MAN I got took to the CLEANERS in that fight!!! I said no F'n WAY Tyrannosaurus Rex arm's Cotto stood a chance in that fight...

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      #152
      Originally posted by Street15
      Yup. I agree.

      The fights that GGG could have had on his resume wouldve been nice if .....

      Martinez had fought him (he didn't for reasons we all just discussed), if Cotto didn't avoid him by paying him step aside money ($800k), if Sturm hadn't avoided him (paid money to be elevated to WBA SUPER champ), if Peter Quillin hadn't avoided him (not saying he is an all time great, but a victory over him looks good on your resume - it was believed by many that Peter missed weight on purpose to not have to face GGG as mandatory).
      Don't be mad at Cotto??? Be mad at GGG who stepped aside for the $$$$. You know who else lay's down for $$$$??? **********S! GGG could of said *** NO! But he took the $$$$ like a god damn HOOKER!

      So blame GGG just as much.

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      • Street15
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        #153
        Originally posted by Robi13
        Ibf will mandate after tomorrow’s hearing, you’re welcome
        If that happens, it will be a very dangerous precedent to set.

        The IBF could have easily got in front of this, and been alot more transparent and concrete.

        You can't sit by and wait, and then with 19 days left decide to want to ENFORCE a fight. I've never seen that before, ever.

        Now - had they said something like "Look GGG, it's March 2nd, we just found out Canelo got busted, if this fight gets canceled for any reason by (specific date) then you will be ordered to fight Sergiy and it will be enforced. If it isn't canceled by (specific date) then you're free to make a voluntary defense"

        That's the way to go about it without causing any unrest.

        That way everybody involved is in the loop. There's no surprises. No screwed up training camps. Etc.

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          #154
          Sergio Gabriel Martinez -225
          Miguel Angel Cotto +175

          -225
          Implied odds of winning 69.2%
          $100 to win $44

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            #155
            Originally posted by Street15
            If that happens, it will be a very dangerous precedent to set.

            The IBF could have easily got in front of this, and been alot more transparent and concrete.

            You can't sit by and wait, and then with 19 days left decide to want to ENFORCE a fight. I've never seen that before, ever.

            Now - had they said something like "Look GGG, it's March 2nd, we just found out Canelo got busted, if this fight gets canceled for any reason by (specific date) then you will be ordered to fight Sergiy and it will be enforced. If it isn't canceled by (specific date) then you're free to make a voluntary defense"

            That's the way to go about it without causing any unrest.

            That way everybody involved is in the loop. There's no surprises. No screwed up training camps. Etc.
            YES but you are assuming they will mandate for May 5th... they can mandate for June or even July

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            • Street15
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              #156
              Originally posted by Shadoww702
              Don't be mad at Cotto??? Be mad at GGG who stepped aside for the $$$$. You know who else lay's down for $$$$??? **********S! GGG could of said *** NO! But he took the $$$$ like a god damn HOOKER!

              So blame GGG just as much.
              It's not about blame. It's about what he could have had on his resume. But as far as step aside money goes, GGG is very much as complicit in that as Cotto was.

              My point was Cotto WOULD HAVE BEEN on his resume.

              Just like I'm not BLAMING Sergio. I'm not blaming Cotto. I'm stating who he was in line to fight. Relax.

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                #157
                Originally posted by Street15
                If that happens, it will be a very dangerous precedent to set.

                The IBF could have easily got in front of this, and been alot more transparent and concrete.

                You can't sit by and wait, and then with 19 days left decide to want to ENFORCE a fight. I've never seen that before, ever.

                Now - had they said something like "Look GGG, it's March 2nd, we just found out Canelo got busted, if this fight gets canceled for any reason by (specific date) then you will be ordered to fight Sergiy and it will be enforced. If it isn't canceled by (specific date) then you're free to make a voluntary defense"

                That's the way to go about it without causing any unrest.

                That way everybody involved is in the loop. There's no surprises. No screwed up training camps. Etc.
                You know what sets " a very dangerous precedent ???" Having a 154LB guy come out of a TWO FKN YEAR retirement to fight a P4P Top #3 DANGEROUS KO artist!!!! On 3 weeks NOTICE at 160 lbs!

                Get the *** out of here with that NOISE and your SHTY Crocodile Tears!

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Robi13
                  YES but you are assuming they will mandate for May 5th... they can mandate for June or even July
                  They very much can do that.

                  But I'm operating off of what IS as of NOW. Not what CAN happen. As of NOW, the IBF has not enforced a match between Gennady and Sergiy.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    Sergio Gabriel Martinez -225
                    Miguel Angel Cotto +175

                    -225
                    Implied odds of winning 69.2%
                    $100 to win $44
                    Prime Sergio beats prime cotto, and both prime of them beat prime ggg lol

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                      #160
                      God damn GGG Fans have no FKN SOULS??? Bunch off POS RTARDS!

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