The IBF should should strip GGG

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  • Dean_Razorback
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    #51
    vanes is a **** fight, but... why should they when GGG was supposed to fight canelo and everything was OK. now they are supposed to strip him because he won't fight derevyanchenko in 3 weeks? lol

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    • lex_fugitive
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      #52
      Originally posted by kafkod
      But they can't strip a champion for failing to obey a mandatory order, if the order hasn't even been issued!
      Duh, but they can reject an opponent today and order a mandatory tomorrow. Also, this is the IBF. They don't f around. Once they order a mandatory that is the champ's next fight. No step-asides and gimmicks like the others. If g waits for this to be mandated, then he will have to fight Derevyanchenko next, and not on May 5th, but after Derevyanchenko had a full training camp.

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      • kafkod
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        #53
        Originally posted by lex_fugitive
        The WBC did order the rematch. Now if that fight is off, it is the IBF's turn. I don't see what they would wait for Canelo's hearing for. That fight is off, even if he isn't suspended. I guess they could wait and let g fight some complete joke and then rematch Canelo. But if that is the case, I would think Dereyvanchenko would have a good argument that he should come before Vanes. Vanes!?! Wtf!?!

        This makes absolutely zero sense for g. The IBF is next, Derevyanchenko is going to be their mandatory. G is going to have to fight him. Why not take him when g has a full training camp and Derevyanchenko only has three weeks?

        I do believe you are right in that, if g signs to fight someone before the mandatory is ordered, I don't think they can strip him. It would be a little ironic if g's next fight is against Derevyanchenko with a full training camp. G better hurry and sign some taxi cab driver or that is what is going to happen.
        To me, it makes no sense for Derevyanchenko to want GGG on 3 weeks notice, or for GGG not to want him in those circumstances!

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        • icha
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          #54
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Who knows what the heck is going on behind the scenes?

          Sulaiman is involved too, and no doubt he will be pressing the IBF to delay their mando till after the GGG/Canelo rematch, if that is at all possible.

          As a GGG fan, I'm worried by how little confidence Sulaiman and Loeffler seem to have in GGG's ability to get past Derevyanchenko without any mishaps. Could he be showing his age in the gym? This is a guy he would have been expected to steam roller without any problems a couple of years ago.
          im with you on this, thats a decent fight but very winnable for ggg, sergie is no monster imo... the only fighters i see going 12 rounds with ggg besides canelo are jacobs and saunders...

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            #55
            Originally posted by Mammoth
            Lol fuck fighting Vanes.
            They shouldn’t strip him, but they should order the Derevyanchenko mandatory though

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            • lex_fugitive
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              #56
              Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
              vanes is a **** fight, but... why should they when GGG was supposed to fight canelo and everything was OK. now they are supposed to strip him because he won't fight derevyanchenko in 3 weeks? lol
              No, if the IBF orders Derevyanchenko, it won't be on May 5th. They would give Derevyanchenko time for a full training camp.

              I think if g fights on May 5th, he is fine. Canelo failed a test and pulled out, and if g still wants to fight then, okay. But the opponent has to be somewhat credible. If g cannot find anyone that fits that bill to sign for May 5th, he will have to cancel the date. And then the IBF could come in and order their mandatory.

              Honestly, I do not see why g doesn't fight Derevyanchenko on May 5th. Because g refused Derevyanchenko and now if they fail to get an acceptable opponent for May 5th, he will be ordered to fight Derevyanchenko later in the summer. Which would give Derevyanchenko a full training camp and possibly ruin hopes of a Canelo rematch in September.

              Derevyanchenko doesn't stand a chance against g with a full training camp, let alone on three weeks notice. g should just go ahead and get it out of the way. It would shut me and everyone else up, and he still would be fighting a gatekeeper with three weeks notice on May 5th and rematch Canelo or unify with BSJ in the fall.

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              • kafkod
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                #57
                Originally posted by lex_fugitive
                Duh, but they can reject an opponent today and order a mandatory tomorrow. Also, this is the IBF. They don't f around. Once they order a mandatory that is the champ's next fight. No step-asides and gimmicks like the others. If g waits for this to be mandated, then he will have to fight Derevyanchenko next, and not on May 5th, but after Derevyanchenko had a full training camp.
                Of course they can. What I'm saying is that GGG is in no danger of being stripped for fighting Vanes, unless the IBF have ordered him to fight Derevyanchenko, which hasn't happened yet.

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                • kafkod
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by icha
                  im with you on this, thats a decent fight but very winnable for ggg, sergie is no monster imo... the only fighters i see going 12 rounds with ggg besides canelo are jacobs and saunders...
                  From what I've seen of Derevyanchenko he's a tough and determined guy who fights aggressively and isn't hard to hit. I would have thought he was made to order for GGG to ktfo after an exciting and entertaining scrap.

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                  • icha
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    From what I've seen of Derevyanchenko he's a tough and determined guy who fights aggressively and isn't hard to hit. I would have thought he was made to order for GGG to ktfo after an exciting and entertaining scrap.
                    exactly, not like a high risk low reward plus you get rid off a mando at the same time...

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                    • Street15
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                      #60
                      Simple: if the IBF hasnt ordered/mandated it, then he has voluntaries.

                      And by the way, if GGG chose Sergiy without the IBF mandating it, he would be considered a voluntary opponent. IBF mandate is STILL next in line. Which is Jacobs, Charlo, and Canelo
                      Last edited by Street15; 04-12-2018, 08:31 PM.

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