Comments Thread For: Joshua To Team Wilder: Give Me $50 Million - I'll Sign Tomorrow!

[zok310]

Why we using logic to defeat a hive mind Wilder fan base?

AJ, walk away from the deal, go fight your mandos and never mention Wilder again cause you dont need him, end of story

[donjigga11]

What AJ is saying is true though.

Wilder team are turning down offers and saying is unacceptable etc but what offers are they making to AJ that's better to make the fight?

[Robbie Barrett]

No top fighter should accept a flat fee for such a fight. No one.

As sick a Floyd fan as I am, I hated it when he offers Pacquaio a flat $40m. It makes no sense.

If Wilder says give me the 30% you gave Parker, AJ and Hearn would lower it and claim all kinds of things from Parker's belt, his country, his UK fanbase.... Reasons why Wilder should get a lower slice or flat fee.

If Wilder wants 40%, he has to start negotiations at 50%, if he wants 30%, he starts at 40% but team AJ has zero interest in negotiating this fight. Wilder said "give me 50%" AJ said "take $12.5m flat fee - take it or leave it" who sounds more crazy?

Wilder by far. He's a 2 mil fighter asking for 50% against someone 10x the draw he is. That's flat out ******ed. On the other hand $12.5 mil for someone that hasn't made more than $2 mil for a fight looks fantastic.

[mvooom]

Maybe he's looked at and listened to the tide of utter ***** that. Wilder's come out with over the past couple of years, the cowardly insinuations of PED use backed up by nothing but innuendo, the constant badmouthing and downgrading of his, superior achievements and greater willingness to embrace risk etc and thought **** him.

I've worked hard to get to this position. I've overpaid guys again and again. Now I'm offering this guy a chance I never got. A chance to make history with one fight. A chance to become undisputed despite a career of cherry picking. A chance to be part of boxing history and hold 5 belts and go on to make massive earnings from them if successful.

I'm offering him this but he also wants to take a big slice of the money I generate. No, he can **** right off with that. I'll offer him more money than he's ever been paid before but I'm not going to reward him for talking trash about me or for sitting on that WBC belt fighting guys Haymon found in the back of a dumpster for 3 years.

I know that's what I'd be thinking if I were the 4 belt holding unified heavyweight champion of the world and Wilder was talking that rubbish about me anyway .

Sounds true, he probably dislikes Wilder alot maybe for the reasons above. I got that feeling when he didn't want Wilder to get in the ring with him after the Parker fight, like why not? That free promo will make the fight a whole lot bigger. He doesn't want Wilder to make any buck off his name.

What you said makes alot of sense. He probably just can't stand Wilder but this fight won't get made with a flat fee like $12.5m. He should focus on beating Wilder senseless rather than not fighting him unless he feels he can't do that too so he comes from an angle he can control.

[Holler]

Sounds true, he probably dislikes Wilder alot maybe for the reasons above. I got that feeling when he didn't want Wilder to get in the ring with him after the Parker fight, like why not? That free promo will make the fight a whole lot bigger. He doesn't want Wilder to make any buck off his name.

What you said makes alot of sense. He probably just can't stand Wilder but this fight won't get made with a flat fee like $12.5m. He should focus on beating Wilder senseless rather than not fighting him unless he feels he can't do that too so he comes from an angle he can control.

There's probably an additional angle here, a quest to assert dominance in the pre fight negotiations. AJ wants to make it clear who e A side is. Wilder's team want to show they won't be pushed around and have cards to play as well, such as the selective leaking of the offer and the resulting brouhaha from US commentators to see if this puts the pressure on AJ to offer a more acceptable deal. Usual story.

(If this isn't all a pantomime and a signed contract dated a year or more ago isn't sitting in Haymon and Hearns respective safes....)

[lion33lit]

AJ wants 50mil? Isnt AJ ALREADY RICH with HOW Eddie has touted him from the gold medal olympic ranks to the muscular pretty boy former drug dealer?? Does it CONTINUALLY have to be about BIG money?! Wilder & AJ arent the same age, Wilder is closer to priming out than the muscular AJ is. So shouldnt that be a factor in this thing?!

They BOTH fought their share of BUMS so this ****** opponent comparison is getting OLD! Wilder WANTS AJ in the worst way and its not because he thinks AJ has fought better opposition, its because he's the heavyweight thats all of a sudden after 20 fights generating all this hoopla!! And its because he believes he has what it takes to malfunction the ROBOT! He believes his HARD WORK, DEDICATION and his MENTAL TOUGHNESS will earn him a GLORIFIED spot in the annals of boxing history!

Now the RICH muscular/greedy duo is HOOKED on getting 50 mil, like thats all its about! Why can't it SIMPLY be a % issue like May/Pac 60/40 - whats with the FLAT FEE CRAP!?? This GREEDY promoter and his ROBOT doesnt understand the concept of: isnt there such a thing as ENOUGH MONEY when you've ALREADY made TONS!?!? Where's the,"Wilder is older than me, let me fight him NOW before he primes out, so that my POLISHED FABRICATED image isnt all there is to me.....

[mvooom]

Wilder by far. He's a 2 mil fighter asking for 50% against someone 10x the draw he is. That's flat out ******ed. On the other hand $12.5 mil for someone that hasn't made more than $2 mil for a fight looks fantastic.

Negotiation!

You don't start negotiating with your final offer which is what AJ did with his "take it or leave it" style. C'mon, look at this from ur angle as a business man, put yoursefl in both shoes.

With a take it or leave it offer, Wilder can't say "give me $20m then" but with Wilder's offer, AJ can easily drop off to 30%. Moreover switchign from a flat fee to % split using AJ negotiation is far more difficult so Wilder has to ask for a price that would make sense like 15m.

And WTF are people on about? When Canelo offered GGG $15m, most of us agreed it was not fair. That is $2.5m extra and both Wilder and GGG made similar amounts in previous fights.

[Robbie Barrett]

AJ wants 50mil? Isnt AJ ALREADY RICH with HOW Eddie has touted him from the gold medal olympic ranks to the muscular pretty boy former drug dealer?? Does it CONTINUALLY have to be about BIG money?! Wilder & AJ arent the same age, Wilder is closer to priming out than the muscular AJ is. So shouldnt that be a factor in this thing?!

They BOTH fought their share of BUMS so this ****** opponent comparison is getting OLD! Wilder WANTS AJ in the worst way and its not because he thinks AJ has fought better opposition, its because he's the heavyweight thats all of a sudden after 20 fights generating all this hoopla!! And its because he believes he has what it takes to malfunction the ROBOT! He believes his HARD WORK, DEDICATION and his MENTAL TOUGHNESS will earn him a GLORIFIED spot in the annals of boxing history!

Now the RICH muscular/greedy duo is HOOKED on getting 50 mil, like thats all its about! Why can't it SIMPLY be a % issue like May/Pac 60/40 - whats with the FLAT FEE CRAP!?? This GREEDY promoter and his ROBOT doesnt understand the concept of: isnt there such a thing as ENOUGH MONEY when you've ALREADY made TONS!?!? Where's the,"Wilder is older than me, let me fight him NOW before he primes out, so that my POLISHED FABRICATED image isnt all there is to me.....

I know you're probably trolling. But it's a reply to all those saying the fight makes $100 mil and Joshua's offer is 12%.

[kiDynamite92]

Lol I think Wilder will win the fight but Josh owned him here haha

[Robbie Barrett]

Negotiation!

You don't start negotiating with your final offer which is what AJ did with his "take it or leave it" style. C'mon, look at this from ur angle as a business man, put yoursefl in both shoes.

With a take it or leave it offer, Wilder can't say "give me $20m then" but with Wilder's offer, AJ can easily drop off to 30%. Moreover switchign from a flat fee to % split using AJ negotiation is far more difficult so Wilder has to ask for a price that would make sense like 15m.

And WTF are people on about? When Canelo offered GGG $15m, most of us agreed it was not fair. That is $2.5m extra and both Wilder and GGG made similar amounts in previous fights.

So when Wilder said 50/50 or no fight he didn't want it? Glad you agree.

By the way Hearn said on twitter he never said "take it or leave it"

I said Golovkin should have taken it.

Mayweather opponents like JMM/Maidana/Ortiz and Pacquiao opponents like Bradley/Mosley etc didn't make anywhere close to $12.5 mil and Mayweather/Pacquiao were bigger draws.

Joshua's offer isn't a lowball or bad.