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  • #21
    Originally posted by bballchump11 View Post
    Hearn was the one who projected $100 million
    True but that was earlier in the year and his plan seems to have been to fight Miller in the US in the summer first to build Joshua's profile in the US and then fight Wilder later in 2018 when Hearn had hoped the fight had grown bigger than it currently is.

    The Miller fight would of been a smart move. Fact is to be big in the US you have to fight in the US and with the rest of the world watching football this summer with the world cup, it was the perfect time for Joshua to have his US debut.

    But that won't happen now. The Povetkin mandatory being enforced ensure it's Wilder or Povetkin next. So Hearn doesn't get to build the Joshua/Wilder fight like he would of liked and so that might explain why his projections for Joshua/Wilder have changed.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
      Potentially yes. Not now, this fight can be built up to 200m if built properly. If it happens now i doubt it makes more than 50m.
      Which, to be fair to him, has been Hearns line all along. Hes been pilloried for it but he's right in what he says. There's a reason Mayweather Paq became so big.

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      • #23
        Lets see what they say. Cos Wilder is loud and butchers the english language talking in the press don’t mean he actually wants this fight as much as he says and these yanks think.

        Patriosm before using your brains here.

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        • #24
          Wilder fans owned again

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          • #25
            So is Joshua accepting a 50 million flat fee???? Can’t these guys just agree too a 60/40 split and be done with it..... we know Wilders team ain’t got 50 M’s and this doesn’t do 100 mil in America.

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            • #26
              Hearn is the one who put the $100 million dollar tag on the fight. Do people randomly select what they hear?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Rubber Ducky View Post

                The Miller fight would of been a smart move. Fact is to be big in the US you have to fight in the US and with the rest of the world watching football this summer with the world cup, it was the perfect time for Joshua to have his US debut.
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                Whyte Wilder would have helped to build it too. There would've been any number of Anglo / US flash points and trash talking that could've primed the markets on both sides of the pond.

                Perfidious Albion would've been trying to cheat our good ol all American boy out of his rightful place in history. No doubt Joshua and Whyte would soon be wearing red coats and threatening a tea tax...

                It could have been huge, but now I'm fed up with the tide of rubbish being spouted and would sooner see it over sooner rather than later. They can fight for what the fight is worth now and still make a fortune and we can get an undisputed champion who can then either cash in on his status fighting second raters or clean out the remaining threats in the division such as Povetkin, Pulev and Fury.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Gentblue View Post
                  So is Joshua accepting a 50 million flat fee???? Can’t these guys just agree too a 60/40 split and be done with it..... we know Wilders team ain’t got 50 M’s and this doesn’t do 100 mil in America.

                  Mate you may know that and so does anyone who follows boxing with more than a passing interest, but you don't have to go far on here to find people authoritatively stating that Vegas will pay X, the gate will be Y and the US PPV take, for a foreigner and a guy who has never fought on PPV is going to be XY and Z multiplied.

                  The fabled riches only exist in fanboy imaginations. The real revenue is all locked up in the house that AJ built. It's 90k fans in Wembley Stadium, 2m X 30$ Sky TV PPV packages and the international rights that come yr way if you are a 28 year old holder of 4 heavyweight belts in only 21 fights and perhaps boxing's only true, potential international superstar.

                  It's enough money to dwarf Wilder's previous pay checks and set him and his team up for life if wisely invested but it's not 50m USD and it will never be. If Wilder had made the same progress in his market that AJ has over here then it could be, but he's not. Nowhere near in fact.

                  Wilder can take a slice of the pie AJ and Hearn have baked but he won't get 40% because he doesn't deserve to. He didn't take the risks in the fights he took on. He didn't overpay to assemble the belts. He's 32 and 40 fights into his pro career and his resume sucks. These are e uncomfortable facts.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Rubber Ducky View Post
                    True but that was earlier in the year and his plan seems to have been to fight Miller in the US in the summer first to build Joshua's profile in the US and then fight Wilder later in 2018 when Hearn had hoped the fight had grown bigger than it currently is.

                    The Miller fight would of been a smart move. Fact is to be big in the US you have to fight in the US and with the rest of the world watching football this summer with the world cup, it was the perfect time for Joshua to have his US debut.

                    But that won't happen now. The Povetkin mandatory being enforced ensure it's Wilder or Povetkin next. So Hearn doesn't get to build the Joshua/Wilder fight like he would of liked and so that might explain why his projections for Joshua/Wilder have changed.
                    I like your point re AJ vs Miller and building his profile stateside..

                    I actually think it's the opposite with the World Cup though... It is in Russia, and there are no football games on in England at that time. So if they time it right, and England start well at the World Cup, Hearn will be able to turn this into another mammoth British summertime event at Wembley I'm sure. England vs Russia in England, during the World Cup in Russia. Sells itself..

                    This is the problem here... Team AJ have a lot of options and will continue making money. Wilder has Breazeale in a 2/3 full Barclay Centre for maybe $2m if no AJ... Their only option here is to shout and make noise and try and railroad the fight into existence.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Holler View Post
                      Mate you may know that and so does anyone who follows boxing with more than a passing interest, but you don't have to go far on here to find people authoritatively stating that Vegas will pay X, the gate will be Y and the US PPV take, for a foreigner and a guy who has never fought on PPV is going to be XY and Z multiplied.

                      The fabled riches only exist in fanboy imaginations. The real revenue is all locked up in the house that AJ built. It's 90k fans in Wembley Stadium, 2m X 30$ Sky TV PPV packages and the international rights that come yr way if you are a 28 year old holder of 4 heavyweight belts in only 21 fights and perhaps boxing's only true, potential international superstar.

                      It's enough money to dwarf Wilder's previous pay checks and set him and his team up for life if wisely invested but it's not 50m USD and it will never be. If Wilder had made the same progress in his market that AJ has over here then it could be, but he's not. Nowhere near in fact.

                      Wilder can take a slice of the pie AJ and Hearn have baked but he won't get 40% because he doesn't deserve to. He didn't take the risks in the fights he took on. He didn't overpay to assemble the belts. He's 32 and 40 fights into his pro career and his resume sucks. These are e uncomfortable facts.
                      This is gospel but these wilder fans will tell you he deserves a 50/50 split because he owns the wbc belt and beat the feared stiverne twice and point to his ratings on free tv as a reason he’s such a massive star.

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