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  • #41
    I remember both Spinks fights. The main reason I remember the first one was how gutted I was about the outcome. Spinks was a game little guy but it was obvious to even an elementary kid like me that Ali was slipping.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
      In the twilight of his career, ali fought a complete toothless hobo named Leon Spinks with like 2 professional fights. and got his ass beat.


      so what's wrong with GGG going for a easy tune-up until he fights Canelo in Sept?
      Cos Ali had already proven his greatness in the ring

      Compare that bltch! !!!

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      • #43
        Oh and let's put leon spinks's name on GGG's record for fun

        Could make a case he would be his 3rd best opponent haha

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        • #44
          Originally posted by djtmal View Post
          more like it.
          Nobody said he didn't. Ali did too. Doesn't mean they didn't fight weak opposition too.

          Pretty much all Haglers best wins are against guys that started about 2 or 3 divisions below him though. Great fighters maybe but fighters today would also get flack for that.

          I'm not knocking Hagler, great fighter, i'm just pointing out facts that older fighters seem to get a pass for.

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          • #45
            You're right. GGG already beat 3 future hall of famers, he shouldn't be criticized for fighting welterweights and jr middleweights.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
              You are ******
              The ****** muthafugga here is YOU!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by TheBigLug View Post
                They really weren't. Hamsho lost every title shot he got.

                Also, my point was that he had only fought a load of bums when Hagler fought him. Plenty of fighters today would have got crucified for that kind of opponent choice if they were meant an elite fighter.
                I guess we have different views of what a world class fighter is. According to you, if you never win an alphabet trinket, you weren’t world class. I believe differently and believe Hamsho would beat every fighter ggg has and the only thing stopping him from a trinket was Hagler.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by TheBigLug View Post
                  Nobody said he didn't. Ali did too. Doesn't mean they didn't fight weak opposition too.

                  Pretty much all Haglers best wins are against guys that started about 2 or 3 divisions below him though. Great fighters maybe but fighters today would also get flack for that.

                  I'm not knocking Hagler, great fighter, i'm just pointing out facts that older fighters seem to get a pass for.
                  thats because in the case of hagler, he was damn near 60 fights in against full-fledged mws before he even got the big $$ fights against those smaller guys moving up who brought the $$, and these smaller guys now rank higher on all-time great lists than anybody you want to care to mention...

                  lol....i guess you glossed over the fact that before he lost to srl, he avenged every loss and draw on his record and was THE champ @ mw, not a paper champ who had a list of diva demands, or avoided guys just to hold onto a piece of a belt like today's fighters do...you wanted to be the undisputed mw champ, you had to see marvelous marvin...it was that simple...

                  i couldn't imagine hagler stalling hearns out because he feared his power, behind some ost that wasn't even the norm...he would have gotten hogtied by me and everybody that were pro marvelous...yet in this day and age these newfangled, sav-a-floyd, simping fanboys will put on their cape, and blame the other guy for that type of ******ity...they don't hold their guy accountable for nothing...thats why the old guys carry more weight....
                  Last edited by djtmal; 04-10-2018, 04:03 PM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
                    In the twilight of his career, ali fought a complete toothless hobo named Leon Spinks with like 2 professional fights. and got his ass beat.


                    so what's wrong with GGG going for a easy tune-up until he fights Canelo in Sept?
                    Spinks was an Olympic gold medallist and a busy fighter (who spoiled himself with drugs later on).

                    By that point in time Ali had already cleared out the division 3 times and was on yet another new gen of heavyweights...who he'd never be able to compete with because he wasn't your average 36 year old, he had years of wear and tear and to make matters worse, signs of Parkinson's were already showing.

                    I personally dont think GGG fighting a less than top level opponent is bad at all under the circumstances (As long as its not prospects) BUT comparing him to Ali is ridiculous.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                      Spinks was an Olympic gold medallist and a busy fighter (who spoiled himself with drugs later on).

                      By that point in time Ali had already cleared out the division 3 times and was on yet another new gen of heavyweights...who he'd never be able to compete with because he wasn't your average 36 year old, he had years of wear and tear and to make matters worse, signs of Parkinson's were already showing.

                      I personally dont think GGG fighting a less than top level opponent is bad at all under the circumstances (As long as its not prospects) BUT comparing him to Ali is ridiculous.
                      rumor had it that around that time ali was also ****ing the hottest women known to mankind....lol

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