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  • Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
    wow.. so now Ortiz ain't sht? so it wasn't you guys saying Wilder will never fight him and calling him a boogeyman? let's just forget all that and focus on the next smokescreen.. Whyte. he's your new boogeyman this time.
    Once Wilder beats someone, the logic of AJ delusional and pathetic fan is that person becomes a bum. Should Wilder beat Whyte, you will hear the same afterwards... 'oh Wilder was being outboxed and was lucky to land the right hand, oh...Whyte was unlucky and just got caught,.... and all the excuses they have been recycling when it has to do with Wilder.

    These pathetic folks blamed Wilder when Ortiz failed the test - went as far as saying the WBC was protecting Wilder, even when Wilder said to the WBC not to cancel the fight. They spent weeks on here bashing Wilder for fighting Stiverne.

    Wilder then pulls Ortiz's card again but you heard most of them say... the fight is not going to happen. Wilder will find a way not to fight Ortiz. Finally, the fight happens... what becomes the next excuse just before the fight happens?

    Ortiz is the ancient one - he is 76000 years old....who knows how good he is? He is no Wlad... if the Ortiz that beat Jennings shows up, he beats Wilder.

    After the fight, it is Wilder got saved by the bell and was given half a minute extra. The scorecards were wrong - this is despite the fact that the scorecards were not needed (Wilder's MO).

    I don't know these guys make up their lies honestly.

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    • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      The million dollar question is: Why was AJ ALREADY in talks with Pulev, instead of Ortiz? Which one was signed to Matchroom? Ortiz or Pulev? The answer is that Hearn did not want that work from Ortiz! You can't come on here and bash Ortiz as an opponent for Wilder, when AJ (Hearn) did whatever he could to avoid Ortiz! Wilder not only fought the Boogeyman, he KO'd the Boogeyman!
      He was in negotiations with Pulev because the IBF had ordered that it had to happen, as a mandatory, immediately after the AJ vs Wlad rematch. So when Wlad announced his retirement, that meant AJ had to fight Pulev next, or be stripped of their title.

      Pulev had been mandatory for a lot longer than Ortiz, and the IBF had ordered AJ to fight him before the WBA ordered their mando with Ortiz.

      Obviously AJ couldn't fight both of them next, so the WBA followed the policy that all the sanctioning orgs had agreed on by allowing the IBF mando to take place before enforcing theirs.

      I don't understand why people keep saying that Hearn signed Ortiz to protect AJ. That's just ******, because Ortiz was AJ's mando. Hearn signing him up made no difference to that at all.

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      • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        The million dollar question is: Why was AJ ALREADY in talks with Pulev, instead of Ortiz? Which one was signed to Matchroom? Ortiz or Pulev? The answer is that Hearn did not want that work from Ortiz! You can't come on here and bash Ortiz as an opponent for Wilder, when AJ (Hearn) did whatever he could to avoid Ortiz! Wilder not only fought the Boogeyman, he KO'd the Boogeyman!
        Not only that. The WBC with whom Ortiz failed the test reinstated him. Yet, WBA did no research but conveniently took Ortiz out of the equation as the mandatory - a perfect cover for AJ never to fight Ortiz. You can't even begin to make these things up anymore.

        This is why Ortiz and his handlers have said the same thing - the winner of the Wilder-Ortiz fight is the best. Even recently, Ortiz's trainer said AJ will continue to avoid Wilder like he did Ortiz. It is easy to see through their BS.

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        • Originally posted by kafkod View Post

          Pulev had been mandatory for a lot longer than Ortiz, and the IBF had ordered AJ to fight him before the WBA ordered their mando with Ortiz.

          Obviously AJ couldn't fight both of them next, so the WBA followed the policy that all the sanctioning orgs had agreed on by allowing the IBF mando to take place before enforcing theirs.

          I don't understand why people keep saying that Hearn signed Ortiz to protect AJ. That's just ******, because Ortiz was AJ's mando. Hearn signing him up made no difference to that at all.
          Very untrue. The WBA was a vacant belt. AJ and Ortiz were the top 2 ranked. AJ lobbied Eddie to sign Ortiz/pay him off so that he could fight Wlad. At that time, AJ only had the IBF belt. Eddie obliged and promised Ortiz he would be next after the unification fight with Wlad (who by the way had no belts after being grossly embarrassed by Tyson Fury).

          Ortiz went along based on the agreement in place. Yet, AJ was willing to fight Wlad again in the rematch having again paid the boxing councils. But when the fight fell through, he avoids Ortiz like a plague and suddenly the IBF becomes the higher mandatory over the WBA.

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            Ridiculous. He doesn't have to go to England to prove he wants to fight AJ.

            AJ is the A side. If he and Hearn decide to fight Miller or anyone else, it's their fault. Now if they mke a fair offer and Wilder refuses it, then that is Wilder's fault.

            Why can't you guys just admit the obvious-Hearn is scared that Wilder's power could damage AJ and his ability to earn long term.
            That's right. That's why AJ won't be showing up to Cardiff on Saturday, because he's scared....

            Oh no, wait a minute....

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            • Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
              wow.. so now Ortiz ain't sht? so it wasn't you guys saying Wilder will never fight him and calling him a boogeyman? let's just forget all that and focus on the next smokescreen.. Whyte. he's your new boogeyman this time.
              Nobody called Ortiz a boogeyman except Wilder fans who fell for the bull****. If Ortiz was a real boogeyman he wouldn't have been chosen as a voluntary for Wilder.

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              • Originally posted by sotgoda View Post
                Very untrue. The WBA was a vacant belt. AJ and Ortiz were the top 2 ranked. AJ lobbied Eddie to sign Ortiz/pay him off so that he could fight Wlad. At that time, AJ only had the IBF belt. Eddie obliged and promised Ortiz he would be next after the unification fight with Wlad (who by the way had no belts after being grossly embarrassed by Tyson Fury).

                Ortiz went along based on the agreement in place. Yet, AJ was willing to fight Wlad again in the rematch having again paid the boxing councils. But when the fight fell through, he avoids Ortiz like a plague and suddenly the IBF becomes the higher mandatory over the WBA.
                You're literally mental.

                You're trying to make out that between a potential fight with either Wladimir Klitschko or Luis Ortiz, we should be criticising AJ for wanting the Klitschko fight.

                If you really think that, you have zero credibility on any boxing forum.

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                • Originally posted by Calibaloc View Post
                  If Wilder knows(and many other rational boxing fans) that Hearn wants to force Whyte on him if he went to the fight and Wilder does not want to fight Whyte, WHO IS JOSHUA'S LEFTOVERS AND they have all these rules like "you can't enter the ring" why would he go?

                  I see idiots on here saying he should fight Whyte because he can make millions. Maybe its not all about the money. He can always fight whyte for millions later. WHY WOULD WILDER FIGHT THE LOSER OF WHYTE VS. JOSHUA WHEN HE CAN FIGHT THE WINNER? THE CHAMPION? THE UNDEFEATED FIGHTER? THE FIGHT EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE? You guys are scared to death that Wilder beats Joshua and you are not even smart enough to hide it.

                  You idiots have so much hate for WIlder thats its making you mentally ******ed smh
                  Well said.

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                  • Originally posted by sotgoda View Post
                    Not only that. The WBC with whom Ortiz failed the test reinstated him. Yet, WBA did no research but conveniently took Ortiz out of the equation as the mandatory - a perfect cover for AJ never to fight Ortiz. You can't even begin to make these things up anymore.

                    This is why Ortiz and his handlers have said the same thing - the winner of the Wilder-Ortiz fight is the best. Even recently, Ortiz's trainer said AJ will continue to avoid Wilder like he did Ortiz. It is easy to see through their BS.
                    You mean, whoever's **** you suck hardest is the best?

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                    • Originally posted by cameltoe View Post
                      You're literally mental.

                      You're trying to make out that between a potential fight with either Wladimir Klitschko or Luis Ortiz, we should be criticising AJ for wanting the Klitschko fight.

                      If you really think that, you have zero credibility on any boxing forum.
                      A deranged person calling me mental? Go get some help. I stand by what I said. Wlad was the easier fight with greater reward. That is why AJ took the fight. Ortiz was the riskier fight with less reward. Talk about credibility - please....

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