Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Skipping Cardiff is Bull****, Doesn't Want Joshua!

[IMDAZED]

Why is Whyte a fight you want to see Wilder take. Literally NO ONE was talking about such a fight until Hearn brought it up. Whyte was blasted out by a green Joshua. Shouldn't he have to deal with the likes of Miller, Pulev, and Povetkin before he gets a crack at a title again. At least Pulev and Povetkin lost to a 30-something year old Klitschko.

I think that’s the part I don’t get. We’re all boxing fans, right? Is it not clear that Dillian Whyte...is not that good? At all?

[angkag]

Hmmmm. Are you falling for that? [He said he wanted 50% so I won't try and negotiate]? The talks have stalled in Hearns court EVERY time there is a legit conversation.

What I find intriguing is that you understand the business behind Hearn trying to get Whyte to fight Wilder, but you don't see it as business 101 to start your negotiation position higher than what you expect to get (50/50 in Wilder's case). So if Hearn is shrewd enough to understand how he can finesse a double payday by getting a Whyte-Wilder eliminator for the next big Joshua fight, why can't he understand that 50/50 is a negotiating position that simply needed him to counter offer.

What Hearn won't do is agree contractual terms before the outcome of the any preliminary fights is known. The guarantee of a showdown with Joshua if he beats Whyte is already implicit, its part of Hearn's Grand Plan, and Wilder wiping the floor with Whyte in the UK would make the UK public demand it - which is what Hearn wants (what they demand- they have to be ready to pay for etc).

[springfiels]

What Hearn won't do is agree contractual terms before the outcome of the any preliminary fights is known. The guarantee of a showdown with Joshua if he beats Whyte is already implicit, its part of Hearn's Grand Plan, and Wilder wiping the floor with Whyte in the UK would make the UK public demand it - which is what Hearn wants (what they demand- they have to be ready to pay for etc).

I do see why Team Wilder want that in writing though... Hearn is an absolute snake, I would want guarantees.

I don't see the issue with Hearn negotiating both fights at once, with Joshua fight dependant on Wilder beating Whyte. Joshua wins more than anyone from that...

[IMDAZED]

And he could have attended and told all the UK sports media that he doesnt want Whyte, he wants Joshua. That would have put a lot of pressure of Joshua and Hearn.

Now Hearn gets to tell whatever bs he wants to media.

He has said that a million times already. They already went through this ordeal. What he doesn't want is to be ringside and instead of dealing with Joshua, he's sidetracked by the raving Whyte we saw last weekend, the one we saw yelling at the cameras as if he'd just KO'ed Lennox Lewis.

[IMDAZED]

I do see why Team Wilder want that in writing though... Hearn is an absolute snake, I would want guarantees.

I don't see the issue with Hearn negotiating both fights at once, with Joshua fight dependant on Wilder beating Whyte. Joshua wins more than anyone from that...

No, Hearn does.

[Pennsauken1]

Eddie Hearn is a complete fraud, he is trying to play Wilder, he don’t need to come out of you are scared to let him in the ring to confront your Diva, AJ is only Hearns puppet, so he has no say so, Dillion Whyte is also a fraud, he beat up on a slow, no talent Brown, who looks like a sloppy bouncer, Wilder did the right thing and made a statement that Eddie Hearn doesn’t run him, Kudos

[Ake-Dawg]

I think that’s the part I don’t get. We’re all boxing fans, right? Is it not clear that Dillian Whyte...is not that good? At all?

That's where a lot of folks drop off or just start attacking Wilder. They've even crowned Whyte as the WBC mandatory even though the WBC hasn't done so. I'd like to see an eliminator between Brezeale and Whyte.

[Ake-Dawg]

What Hearn won't do is agree contractual terms before the outcome of the any preliminary fights is known. The guarantee of a showdown with Joshua if he beats Whyte is already implicit, its part of Hearn's Grand Plan, and Wilder wiping the floor with Whyte in the UK would make the UK public demand it - which is what Hearn wants (what they demand- they have to be ready to pay for etc).

He signed a contract to fight Klitschko before Joshua fought Molina. So apparently preliminary fights are ok when its his fighter, but not so much for another fighter.

To me, understanding Hearn's logic does not allay any criticism laid at his feet. Especially from me.

Its simple, make the money and contracts right to get Whyte-Wilder or stop going on about Whyte and Wilder.

[E10Rifle]

he stated already he only fights kings, not peasants!

Well, 1 king, 1 top-10 knight and 38 peasants in the most padded record in heavyweight history. Good nuthugging, though. Well done.

[Bronx2245]

Hmmmm. Are you falling for that? [He said he wanted 50% so I won't try and negotiate]? The talks have stalled in Hearns court EVERY time there is a legit conversation.

What I find intriguing is that you understand the business behind Hearn trying to get Whyte to fight Wilder, but you don't see it as business 101 to start your negotiation position higher than what you expect to get (50/50 in Wilder's case). So if Hearn is shrewd enough to understand how he can finesse a double payday by getting a Whyte-Wilder eliminator for the next big Joshua fight, why can't he understand that 50/50 is a negotiating position that simply needed him to counter offer.

Didn't I tell you that Hearn was going for the double payday! The only question Wilder should be asking himself now, is it better to fight Whyte in UK, or the US? I say Wilder should go where the money is the greatest, because he might not see Joshua until 2019, and there's no big fight in between, unless Fury beats a Top 10 HW this summer!