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  • #91
    Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
    Because it's about control/money. Matchroom/Sky controls the whole show top to bottom in the UK. At Barclays it's a PBC/Showtime affair.

    Why would the champ travel for a non-mandatory challenger that lost by KO to the other guy that he's trying to unify with?

    It's silly lol
    Well because it would be Wilder's biggest payday ever
    probably be the biggest crowd too

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    • #92
      Originally posted by HarvardBlue View Post
      The bottom line is Hearn doesn't want Wilder to upstage Joshua at his own event.
      That's not it. To be clear, I think Hearn is a lying SOS, but understand his motives here.

      He promotes both Whyte and Joshua, and to understand his motives, just consider his top 3 motivations (1) money (2) more money (3) even more money.

      Who is afraid of who, ducking who etc is all just irrelevant background noise.

      Whyte v Wilder would ticks all of Hearn's boxes. He makes money, not just from the fight, but also from the outcome. If Whyte wins, its a lucrative double-dip rematch with Joshua, if Wilder goes to the UK and does a Stiverne on Whyte, then suddently everyone in the UK knows him and wants to see Joshua fight him. Bingo. Only risk is a if it were a boring fight, and with Wilder, that's pretty low risk.

      For Hearn, this path to Joshua v Wilder is Business 101 and he's just expressing frustration that not everyone is on the same wavelength.

      Wilder attending Cardiff is a no-brainer for him as part of building up the Wilder v Whyte part of his grand plan.

      As I said, I think Hearn is a SOS, but where is he wrong in his thinking about how best to sell this ? In fighting Whyte, Wilder gets a 7 figure sum during the preliminaries to build up the Joshua fight, and blowing out Whyte would have all the UK fans baying for Joshua to be set on him - which is where Hearn wants to take it.

      For me, the one and only question is why Wilder won't go down that road ? The only possible reasons could be

      (a) getting poor advice
      - I don't see any other viable alternatives to Hearn's grand plan as Wilder will NOT get Joshua next. If Wilder won't fight Whyte, Hearn is left with a Whyte v Joshua rematch, which while he gets to double-dip, doesn't really help build up the eventual big one (Joshua/Wilder)
      - Wilder staying stateside to fight whoever else for less money doesn't seem to meet Wilder's needs or to build up any frenzy for the Joshua fight in the UK

      (b) pride. Wants to be the one to dictate how it all goes down
      - Joshua or nothing
      - but he's not going to get Joshua, so back to (a)

      (c) does he see Whyte as a risk ?
      - Wilder should be able to beat Whyte handily, but we are back to 'then why not take it ?'

      Putting it all together, I can only think that Wilder sees his big ticket as the Joshua fight, and sees Whyte as potentially derailing it, and doesn't want any potential derailments.

      So we are where we are. Hearn won't go Joshua/Wilder next, and if Wilder won't fight Whyte, it leaves Hearn having to either try sell a bs rematch between Whyte and Joshua, else go Plan B to start building up Joshua in the US instead of building up Wilder in the UK (ie Big Baby).

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Mister Wolf View Post
        These Brits are cowards. Wilder should just focus on defending his title and move on.
        Move on? He has nowhere to go lol

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        • #94
          Wilder is no A side, not a huge sports celebrity and doesn't make nearly as much money as other boxing stars.
          As much as I hate all this boxing politics he has to play by the rules and refusing to go to AJxParker fight like a crybaby won't do him any favors.

          If Hearn wants him to fight Whyte first, well, what can you do?? Do it, man. Don't get spoiled thinking the world owes you what you think you deserve.

          Hearn has the aces in his sleeve, not Wilder. That's the bottom line.

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          • #95
            I am a little disappointed that Wilder will not be there but that being said , Hearn is now saying AJ may have invited Wilder in the ring post fight when he previously said he didn’t want Wilder in the ring. No wonder his own people don’t like him. I do hope Wilder is not going to avoid Whyte.

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            • #96
              Smh @ eddie

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              • #97
                Hearn mentioned Whyte's name at least 7 times in that article.

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                • #98
                  The WBC will likely order the fight but Hearn doesn't want to promote Joshua vs Wilder but Wilder vs Whyte. Wilder doesn't owe anything to Hearn who is using Whyte to shield Joshua atm. Make Joshua Wilder next, the winner will be undisputed or GFY.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by TheClap View Post
                    **** Eddie Hearn and his ******
                    ****** maybe but earning far more than Wilder.

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                    • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      Notice how Hearn kept my mentioning Dillian Shyte in every other sentence?


                      That's why Wilder isn't going over there, he's sick to death of them hiding Joshua from him behind this Beetlejuice looking nobody.
                      We'll see who Wilder fights next. What name and for how much

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