can we start calling AJ anthony chickenson yet?

[Curt Henning]

once again..

leading up to canelo/chavez....u heard loeffler and company saying nice things and how they thought they would get canelo real soon and seemed happy...because they were in talks and knew they were next....thats how fighters/teams act when theyve had dialogue with the other side and feel confident they are next

wilder aint heard nothing from hearn....nothing....cept mentions of anything but a fight.....hey, maybe its just mind games...maybe its just a joke....but i doubt it

[chrisJS]

my comprehension skills are fine...theres so much BS here that i often skim.....but you said that and then changed the terms....would you deny that you did that?

whats the point of talking about klit?

A. hes retired
B. at the time his people didnt feel he was ready
C. AJ handled him so if wilder ducked klit then wilder should be easy work for AJ right?
D. yall said ortiz was the boogeyman when he failed a test and it got canceled...then yall claimed he was old ,even though hes younger than wlad and lefthanded, when wilder put him down 3x
E. why wouldnt AJ feel hes ready? he beat klit and says hes the man....both AJ and wilder have now had their "step up" fights....you need another? there arent any more steps up for either guy

A few lies in there.

First of this is my original post in the thread :-

"The fight will happen. 100%. If Joshua beats Parker it will happen within a year (2 fights at the most). You don't think it will ever happen. I will offer you a loser leaves the site bet. If the fight hasn't been signed by the end of the year I leave the site if it has been signed you leave the site. Fair enough?"

Why would you lie and say that I didn't say that when it's here in this thread to see?

A - Ok, so you think Wilder ducked him. Cool. Why do you talk about Ward and Floyd and other fighters on a daily basis that are retired if you have a policy not to discuss retired fighters?

B - Isn't that a duck? You can paint it however you like it. I know if Hearn said "Joshua's not ready" you'd foam at the mouth and start a dozen or so threads every day for a few months at least. Why is this different? Why wasn't he ready? He was the same age as Joshua is now, with far more experience and in your view far more talent.

C - That doesn't make a lot of sense. I do believe Wilder is an easy fight. I don't think Joshua's that good but I think Wilder is pretty bad. Mikey Garcia ducked Linares and Gamboa but he'd have beaten them IMO.

D - When did I say this about Ortiz? I said Ortiz wasn't that good and that he'd be easy work. I thought it would be 12-0 or a KO within 3-4 rounds. Why would you lie about me again? The age of Ortiz and Klit is irrelevant. GGG is older than Chavez JR ask Canelo who was a better opponent. Ortiz is a never was. In arguably the weakest era in Heavyweight history he wasn't good enough to even win a title.

E - Who's saying he's not ready? I'm of the belief once you are a title holder you should accept any challenge and I am of firm belief that they will have signed to fight each other by the end of the year. I just don't know when it should have happened given the timescale of events. I believe the plan was and is to make Joshua-Wilder for all four belts. It hasn't crossed your mind that Joshua-Wilder for all four belts is a bigger Heavyweight finale than Joshua-Parker for all four? Now I think Parker is a better fighter than Wilder but I know what's a bigger event. I'd actually consider going to Joshua-Wilder even though I am not a fan of either fighter/

[uppercut510]

my comprehension skills are fine...theres so much BS here that i often skim.....but you said that and then changed the terms....would you deny that you did that?

whats the point of talking about klit?

A. hes retired
B. at the time his people didnt feel he was ready
C. AJ handled him so if wilder ducked klit then wilder should be easy work for AJ right?
D. yall said ortiz was the boogeyman when he failed a test and it got canceled...then yall claimed he was old ,even though hes younger than wlad and lefthanded, when wilder put him down 3x
E. why wouldnt AJ feel hes ready? he beat klit and says hes the man....both AJ and wilder have now had their "step up" fights....you need another? there arent any more steps up for either guy

AJs fans simply don't want to see him fight wilder, sad but true, Its hilarious

[Curt Henning]

A few lies in there.

First of this is my original post in the thread :-

"The fight will happen. 100%. If Joshua beats Parker it will happen within a year (2 fights at the most). You don't think it will ever happen. I will offer you a loser leaves the site bet. If the fight hasn't been signed by the end of the year I leave the site if it has been signed you leave the site. Fair enough?"

Why would you lie and say that I didn't say that when it's here in this thread to see?

A - Ok, so you think Wilder ducked him. Cool. Why do you talk about Ward and Floyd and other fighters on a daily basis that are retired if you have a policy not to discuss retired fighters?

B - Isn't that a duck? You can paint it however you like it. I know if Hearn said "Joshua's not ready" you'd foam at the mouth and start a dozen or so threads every day for a few months at least. Why is this different? Why wasn't he ready? He was the same age as Joshua is now, with far more experience and in your view far more talent.

C - That doesn't make a lot of sense. I do believe Wilder is an easy fight. I don't think Joshua's that good but I think Wilder is pretty bad. Mikey Garcia ducked Linares and Gamboa but he'd have beaten them IMO.

D - When did I say this about Ortiz? I said Ortiz wasn't that good and that he'd be easy work. I thought it would be 12-0 or a KO within 3-4 rounds. Why would you lie about me again? The age of Ortiz and Klit is irrelevant. GGG is older than Chavez JR ask Canelo who was a better opponent. Ortiz is a never was. In arguably the weakest era in Heavyweight history he wasn't good enough to even win a title.

E - Who's saying he's not ready? I'm of the belief once you are a title holder you should accept any challenge and I am of firm belief that they will have signed to fight each other by the end of the year. I just don't know when it should have happened given the timescale of events. I believe the plan was and is to make Joshua-Wilder for all four belts. It hasn't crossed your mind that Joshua-Wilder for all four belts is a bigger Heavyweight finale than Joshua-Parker for all four? Now I think Parker is a better fighter than Wilder but I know what's a bigger event. I'd actually consider going to Joshua-Wilder even though I am not a fan of either fighter/

lol@you think wilder "sucks" but that he'd easily beat ortiz 12-0....lolol...that right there cracks me up....why its hard to discuss things with you

[Curt Henning]

chris again misses the point...im fine with him fighting parker now....

but as i said...when both sides have been discussing a fight and are ready to make it next they are usually quiet or saying good, positive, things...ie. golovkins team before chavez/canelo....thats a prime example...nothing but positive things coming from loeffler and company before that fight...because they were in contact and knew they were next

wilder hasnt heard a peep from hearn

it should be next...thats the point...the whole point...

unless hearn and wilder are pulling wool over us....if they sign it next, before i take off, i will come here and admit i was wrong and way off...ill eat my crow....cause they would have all done a great job fooling us

the point is chris, which you keep trying to change, is that it should be next......and hearn and co. show no signs of leaning that way.......even loeffler was being positive and saying good things knowing full well they were next and had been in talks with golden boy

hearns whole stance is the complete opposite...ill repeat one more time...it should be NEXT...i know you wanna make it into something else though

[Curt Henning]

A few lies in there.

First of this is my original post in the thread :-

"The fight will happen. 100%. If Joshua beats Parker it will happen within a year (2 fights at the most). You don't think it will ever happen. I will offer you a loser leaves the site bet. If the fight hasn't been signed by the end of the year I leave the site if it has been signed you leave the site. Fair enough?"

Why would you lie and say that I didn't say that when it's here in this thread to see?

A - Ok, so you think Wilder ducked him. Cool. Why do you talk about Ward and Floyd and other fighters on a daily basis that are retired if you have a policy not to discuss retired fighters?

B - Isn't that a duck? You can paint it however you like it. I know if Hearn said "Joshua's not ready" you'd foam at the mouth and start a dozen or so threads every day for a few months at least. Why is this different? Why wasn't he ready? He was the same age as Joshua is now, with far more experience and in your view far more talent.

C - That doesn't make a lot of sense. I do believe Wilder is an easy fight. I don't think Joshua's that good but I think Wilder is pretty bad. Mikey Garcia ducked Linares and Gamboa but he'd have beaten them IMO.

D - When did I say this about Ortiz? I said Ortiz wasn't that good and that he'd be easy work. I thought it would be 12-0 or a KO within 3-4 rounds. Why would you lie about me again? The age of Ortiz and Klit is irrelevant. GGG is older than Chavez JR ask Canelo who was a better opponent. Ortiz is a never was. In arguably the weakest era in Heavyweight history he wasn't good enough to even win a title.

E - Who's saying he's not ready? I'm of the belief once you are a title holder you should accept any challenge and I am of firm belief that they will have signed to fight each other by the end of the year. I just don't know when it should have happened given the timescale of events. I believe the plan was and is to make Joshua-Wilder for all four belts. It hasn't crossed your mind that Joshua-Wilder for all four belts is a bigger Heavyweight finale than Joshua-Parker for all four? Now I think Parker is a better fighter than Wilder but I know what's a bigger event. I'd actually consider going to Joshua-Wilder even though I am not a fan of either fighter/

lol@you desperately trying to paint me as a liar also...very laughable...you tried to change those terms in later posts...dont act like you didnt

LOL@"i think wilder sucks...but i also picked him to beat ortiz 12-0"

thats the funniest thing ive heard all year

[Curt Henning]

AJs fans simply don't want to see him fight wilder, sad but true, Its hilarious

this guy tells me that he thinks wilder sucks and is terrible...but also that he picked him to beat ortiz 12-0 or knock him out in 3-4 rounds LOLOL

talk about hedging your bet...id hate to hear what he thinks about ortiz then

[chrisJS]

lol@you think wilder "sucks" but that he'd easily beat ortiz 12-0....lolol...that right there cracks me up....why its hard to discuss things with you

I didn't think much of Ortiz and when you throw in that he is old (perhaps older than advertised) and that the times I felt he was fairly impressive was perhaps due to PED's and then thrown in with his ring rust it was logical to see how it would be a blowout. I was surprised just how poor Wilder looked until Ortiz gassed. He was being dominated by a guy who was never good enough to win a title in one of the worst era's in the divisions history. I think how inept Wilder looked for the most of that fight explains why he and his team openly ducked Klitshcko.

[champion4ever]

it works...we can make anything work

it will especially work when aj goes to hbo to avoid the wilder fight...

you don't think hearn got two C level HW's on an hbo time slot cause he wants to keep AJ around on the same network as wilder do you?

Yep! He is not in a rush to challenge Wilder anytime soon and neither is Eddie and Barry Hearn; Or even match room boxing for that matter. In order to save face, they are only telling the boxing fans what they want to hear. I guess they are waiting for "The Bronze Bomber " to get old.

[Curt Henning]

I didn't think much of Ortiz and when you throw in that he is old (perhaps older than advertised) and that the times I felt he was fairly impressive was perhaps due to PED's and then thrown in with his ring rust it was logical to see how it would be a blowout. I was surprised just how poor Wilder looked until Ortiz gassed. He was being dominated by a guy who was never good enough to win a title in one of the worst era's in the divisions history. I think how inept Wilder looked for the most of that fight explains why he and his team openly ducked Klitshcko.

lololol....great hedge...."wilder really blows but in case he does win i think ortiz is really trash...subtrash"

hey man...show me where you predicted this....please...i want to eat crow

also....pick a neutral poster/moderator that we can agree on...im willing to throw at least a note that AJ/wilder dont happen next...in paypal escrow....ill go much higher actually if you want....but i figured thats a good starting point....or am i "unrealistic"?