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  • Raggamuffin
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    #101
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    So if his team insists on 50/50
    Fans trust that Haymon will get Wilder a fair deal. And absolutely nobody thinks that Wilder doesn't want to fight Joshua except Joshua's fans. 50/50 is the last excuse Hearn and Joshua can use before fans start to **** on him.

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      #102
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
      Fans trust that Haymon will get Wilder a fair deal. And absolutely nobody thinks that Wilder doesn't want to fight Joshua except Joshua's fans. 50/50 is the last excuse Hearn and Joshua can use before fans start to **** on him.
      So if Wilder is very vocal that he won't do less than 50/50 and won't travel how will you interpret that?

      I think fans of boxing trust that the fight will get done and that all thing **** talk is just to build some hype. I'll offer you a loser leaves the site bet that the sign will have been signed by the end of the year.

      Remember it's Wilder with the history of passing on fights and wanting them to marinade (like they wanted to with Wlad) and it's Joshua with the history of unification bouts.
      Last edited by chrisJS; 03-21-2018, 08:11 PM.

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        #103
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        So if Wilder is very vocal that he won't do less than 50/50 and won't travel
        There are updated videos of Wilder saying what he wants. I don't know how many times I have to say it. You keep repeating yourself and now your editing your repeating lol.

        Haymon will get Wilder a good deal. I just doubt that Hearn and Joshua want the fight. If this were Wilder saying and doing what Joshua has been doing, you'd be calling Wilder a ****en coward.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Raggamuffin
          There are updated videos of Wilder saying what he wants. I don't know how many times I have to say it. You keep repeating yourself and now your editing your repeating lol.

          Haymon will get Wilder a good deal. I just doubt that Hearn and Joshua want the fight. If this were Wilder saying and doing what Joshua has been doing, you'd be calling Wilder a ****en coward.
          What's a good deal? Let's just say they can't get more than 40% and deem that a bad deal and walk away who's fault is it?

          Joshua has said he wants the fight too. Mikey Garcia also said he wanted the Cotto, Gamboa and Linares fights and turned them all down.

          My hypothetical question is - if Joshua and Hearn stand firm and say we'll give you 40% and the fight is in England take it or leave it and Wilders team says no and he doesn't overrule them then who do you blame?

          That's a simple question that should require a simple answer.

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            #105
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            What's a good deal? Let's just say they can't get more than 40% and deem that a bad deal and walk away
            I don't deal in hypothetical situations. Those are set ups scenarios lmao. I believe in Haymon. I deal with reality, and the reality is Joshua and Hearn are reluctant to fight Wilder and you know this, but you'd rather argue a point that is created by YOU! Lol

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              #106
              Originally posted by Raggamuffin
              I don't deal in hypothetical situations. Those are set ups scenarios lmao. I believe in Haymon. I deal with reality, and the reality is Joshua and Hearn are reluctant to fight Wilder and you know this, but you'd rather argue a point that is created by YOU! Lol
              I think they are willing and will make it. I think it will have either happened or at least be signed by the years end. Don't you? I think if Wilder isn't willing to take 40% and isn't willing to travel then he's clearly the one preventing it and is full of hot air. I won't make that claim yet because there hasn't been a time where this fight could have been made yet. You, along with Curt have already made your mind up that Joshua is ducking and you won't change your mind and even when the fight happens and if Joshua wins then it'll be onto the next guy who Joshua is ducking. Perhaps it's Miller?

              Wilder is the guy with the history of turning down fights and Joshua is the guy with the history of accepting unifications.
              Last edited by chrisJS; 03-21-2018, 09:44 PM.

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                #107
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                I think they are willing and will make it. I think it will have either happened or at least be signed by the years end. Don't you?

                Wilder is the guy with the history of turning down fights and Joshua is the guy with the history of accepting unifications.
                **** blowing at its finest, lmao. No I don't think that Joshua and Hearn will make the fight this year, and if I'm wrong ill be happy that I'm wrong.

                Hearn and Joshua know that they have a good thing going, but that's not how boxing history is made. And for every coward hiding behind the coattails of others, there's always that one guy who finds out and checks the coward.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                  **** blowing at its finest, lmao. No I don't think that Joshua and Hearn will make the fight this year, and if I'm wrong ill be happy that I'm wrong.

                  Hearn and Joshua know that they have a good thing going, but that's not how boxing history is made. And for every coward hiding behind the coattails of others, there's always that one guy who finds out and checks the coward.
                  I think you are **** blowing Wilder. I'm not even a Joshua fan. He's a good fighter but not close to a personal favorite of mine.

                  I just think Wilder sucks and the fight will be happen and happen soon and then everybody will move on from him and we'll look back and not really think much of him. I don't think Wilder or Joshua are cowards. They are professional boxers I don't think there's really any in the sport.

                  I think by the end of the year the fight will have been signed and people are gonna laugh at the folks who swore that Joshua was scared. That's why I offer a loser leaves the site bet.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    I think you are **** blowing Wilder. I'm not even a Joshua fan. He's a good fighter but not close to a personal favorite of mine.

                    I just think Wilder sucks and the fight will be happen and happen soon and then everybody will move on from him and we'll look back and not really think much of him. I don't think Wilder or Joshua are cowards. They are professional boxers I don't think there's really any in the sport.

                    I think by the end of the year the fight will have been signed and people are gonna laugh at the folks who swore that Joshua was scared. That's why I offer a loser leaves the site bet.
                    I don’t think Joshua is good at all so we’re on the opposite spectrums on how good Joshua is.

                    Second if Joshua doesn’t take the fight if he beats Parker what will you think of him?

                    Third, predicting that a guy won’t take a fight isn’t an “eat crow” or “leave the site” kind of thing. That’s fans arguing back and forth off of what the fighters are saying.

                    And lastly Joshua’s fans have run out of criticism for Wilder. It’s time to fight and there is no hold up after this fight. If he cries he has to fight a mandatory or that Wilder wants too much then Joshua is a ***** for life in my book. Boxing always comes full circle. You can’t hide at home forever.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      I don’t think Joshua is good at all so we’re on the opposite spectrums on how good Joshua is.

                      Second if Joshua doesn’t take the fight if he beats Parker what will you think of him?

                      Third, predicting that a guy won’t take a fight isn’t an “eat crow” or “leave the site” kind of thing. That’s fans arguing back and forth off of what the fighters are saying.

                      And lastly Joshua’s fans have run out of criticism for Wilder. It’s time to fight and there is no hold up after this fight. If he cries he has to fight a mandatory or that Wilder wants too much then Joshua is a ***** for life in my book. Boxing always comes full circle. You can’t hide at home forever.
                      If Wilder does want too much money as in more than 40% and won't leave America to go to the A sides back yard that's a ***** move. I'll see what he does. Wilder has a history of turning down good fights and his team also avoided a Klitschko fight.

                      I think Joshua is good but far from great. I consider him a B+ level fighter and Wilder a B- or C+. He's a bum with power if not for his power I think he'd be a journeyman and not a good one. His signature win is a life and death struggle with a guy not good enough to even win a title in a terrible era.

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