Comments Thread For: WBC Doctor on Canelo: Everything Points To Contamination

[Illmatic94]

where did he eat this mystery meat from? where's the source?

testing blood and urine is pointless now. Clen's half life is 36 hours. but it's still detectable in hair for up to three months. but will they test Clenelo's hair? Hells naw.

this WBC "doctor" has zero credibility. Clenelo was deemed innocent BEFORE any phony "investigation" took place.

saying it's consistent with meat contamination doesn't make that statement a fact. it could just be the PED was in trace levels because it was naturally leaving the system.

and here's the Ether for all these Clenelo defenders. EVEN if it was tainted meat (which we don't know) he still should be fined and banned. the more you say how "widespread" the problem is the more guilty you make him look.

he's consuming meat in a highly contaminated country taking zero precautions. thats called gross negligence. either way you slice it Clenelo is either a doping cheater or a bold idiot that WILLINGLY consumed food he knew had a high probability to be tainted.

and it doesn't matter how low the levels were. there is no threshold where Clen would be allowed. ZERO threshold. so Clenelo is guilty.

[angkag]

Enough to get him banned automatically if he lived anywhere except Mexico. 10 times more than the cyclist Alberto Contador had, and he was banned for 2 years.

To expand, Contador was banned and stripped of past titles after a 0.05 ng positive. Canelo was 0.6 to 0.8 ng.

[BattlingNelson]

I had no idea that House of Boxing Gym - San Diego was in Mexico.

House Of Boxing Gym: https://www.instagram.com/p/BfWdXTqA...houseofboxing_
February 18th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYrVLx1cy38

Same video as above.
February 16th.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfcSooDHTLY/?taken-by=goldenboyboxing

Canelo in San Diego
February 21
The doors can be confirmed to be House of Boxing:


So when the hell was he eating that meat?
He was not training in his hometown.

One of the reasons we need a full investigation. Where did he buy the meat is one question needing an answer.

[1hourRun]

Everything except the truth. It all adds up to him being a cheater.
He Never listed beef in his diet and he started a fake beef with the wbc because he was scared of the clean program.

So Canelo failed two tests. The first sample showed 600-800 pg of clenbuterol, and the second 60-80 pg.

1. WADA stated that to produce 50 pg in urine, it would have been necessary to have eaten meat which had been killed very soon after the last dosing of the animal with Clenbuterol. http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/73...ent-tests.aspx

2. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 200 to 300 pg/ml and 500 to 600 pg/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/4045696/

Again, the first sample showed 600-800 pg of clenbuterol. This is hardly a very small amount if medication produces that level and less. The second failed test a couple days later possibly shows a trace amount of that last dosage.

I'm with you guys, the 'low' levels is easy to explain ; Clen should be out of your system in about two days on its own and even faster with proper cycling . Heres Victor Conte's take.

[hugh grant]

Only the specialists being used are from organizations that get paid by Canelo if he fights for that belt, the facts are on the table, the high amount he tested is not from meat contamination, Clembuterol goes away from the body in a mater of days and he got caught, there is no way that his trainers who have meat companies and they themselves are butchers would allow Canelo to eat meat from another source knowing the issue, it doesn't take a specialist to know what they did there and what they are doing, Canelo and his team F,kd up and now are running like crazy ants trying to fix the error, paying every "specialist" they can think of to try and clear Canelos name, but people are not buying into their SH.It.

Here is just a bit of info from people who actually use and test Clembuterol:

"The****utic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration. "

Seems like 0.6-0.8 ng/ml is quite a lot and consistent not with eating some meat, but with administering clenbuterol pills directly for a period of time.


Canelo is a PED user and got busted.

Yes I would agree. Nelo really would have preferred not to take them as he knew risks of getting caugh, but probably didn’t think he would get caught. But he knew he couldn’t beat ggg without them. And anything other than winning is unacceptable. Ggg would also take peds if necessary. But he’s not met any boxer he needs them with yet. Ggg knows if he does what he does best he beats nelo 8 out of 10 times
Your either born with stamina or not. There are people who just can’t run marathons let alone in 2hrs 10 mins.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Only the specialists being used are from organizations that get paid by Canelo if he fights for that belt, the facts are on the table, the high amount he tested is not from meat contamination, Clembuterol goes away from the body in a mater of days and he got caught, there is no way that his trainers who have meat companies and they themselves are butchers would allow Canelo to eat meat from another source knowing the issue, it doesn't take a specialist to know what they did there and what they are doing, Canelo and his team F,kd up and now are running like crazy ants trying to fix the error, paying every "specialist" they can think of to try and clear Canelos name, but people are not buying into their SH.It.

Here is just a bit of info from people who actually use and test Clembuterol:

"The****utic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration. "

Seems like 0.6-0.8 ng/ml is quite a lot and consistent not with eating some meat, but with administering clenbuterol pills directly for a period of time.


Canelo is a PED user and got busted.

Blah blah tío too long did not read.

Ok, give us the words of others specialists that actually said that Canelo is a cheater in some social media.

Your post is complete garbage, because only is your ****** personal deduction.

[kafkod]

I already acknowledged that if he were outside Mexico in a country that doesn't have meat contamination he would be banned. You want these agencies to treat all cases the same while ignoring the major factor that in mexico you can consume this shyt in their meat while in other countries that can't happen. And ignore the numerous examples of athletes in Mexico being higher risk of coming into contact with this. The fact that Canelo was in Mexico is not the only factor to why he is likely innocent it's just one the other major factor is the levels in his system are extremely low consistent with meat contamination. You keep acting like all you need is to be from Mexico but the levels matter if you have too high then it's clear you are taking pills regardless where you live but the extremely low level and the fact he is in Mexico all lead to meat contamination as well as the fact that his later tests all came up negative.

It wasn't an extremely low level. It was multiple times higher than the level needed to get an athlete banned anywhere outside Mexico. That's because the level was consistant with both accidental contamination and cheating.

Coming up clean in subsequent tests is irrelevant, because that is also consistant with both accidental contamination and deliberate cheating.

[Slowhand]

Anyone With Common Sense: Everything Points To Corruption.

[mathed]

SMH, everything points to cheating. These scumbags are trying to cover it up for the diva.

[kafkod]

. You want these agencies to treat all cases the same while ignoring the major factor that in mexico you can consume this shyt in their meat while in other countries that can't happen.

No, you idiot .. I want apologists like you to cut this bull**** about the "evidence means he is probably innocent" and admit that the only reason he isn't getting banned for this test result is that he lives in Mexico.