Comments Thread For: WBC Doctor on Canelo: Everything Points To Contamination

[lagako10]

Canelita survived again thanks to her auntie Osgay Dela Joya

[stealthradon]

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...golovkin-fight

Alvarez, who is training in his hometown of Guadalajara, Mexico, provided urine samples on Feb. 17 and Feb. 20

according to the official letter by the testing agency they visited him in Mexico for the samples. So now you are saying that WADA is lying and that Canelo was really in San Diego when he was tested? SMH

The test could have been in Jalisco. But are the videos lying?

[angkag]

what he needs to do is do the Hair test and even with that it has to be taken with a grain of salt due to the wealth he has and the corruption surrounding boxing, specially DLH, his team and in this case his golden goose.

Golden boy; 'canelo's hair sample shows no trace of clenbuterol'

Observer; 'why is the hair sample black ?'

[icha]

I'm not saying he isn't innocent, but I believe the circumstances and the evidence are clearly insufficient to say that he is.

There is actually quite a bit of circumstancial evidence against him ..

His trainer is in the meat trade and knows all about the tainted meat problem and how to avoid it.

Canelo has posted his training diets and stated that he eats no red meat .. just fish and chicken.

Cavez Jr complained about VADA tests starting late for their fight and Canelo pulled out of VADA completely when he really needed to cut drastic weight for the Smith fight.

the one thing i agree is a bit early to come to a conclusion.. i know wbc wants to welcome back canelo so badly cuz that means a lot of money, but they shouldnt come to conclusions this early... there is also more organizations involved so its going to be very interesting how all this ends up... now one thing i find very special and is something no one here is really talking about, i saw it in the sports news in mexico televisa and espn, they said that this was a voluntary test requested by canelo him self before entering camp, thats one of the reasons why in mexican tv no one made a big deal about this, in fact most have already concluded that there was no ped problems.. why will he ask for a test if he is using peds?? now outside of the tv stating this, only sulaiman confirmed the test was conducted that way, didnt hear that from canelo or his team... that changes a lot, but not really sure if its true...

[Bjl12]

There is not a specialist that say that Canelo is a cheater.

Only the ****** haters from here.

They are like Trump supporters. Angry their guy (VaGGGina) didn't do what he was "supposed" to do so they start making up all sorts of excuses...

MarGGGarito won doe
Trump is not a racist
Trump is not a sexist
Trump is not a lying thief
Ca$hnelo must be cheating!!

These children are so pathetic. However, the HATE will only intensify on May 6 after Clenelo I C E S VaGGGina.

Feelsgoodman

[Shadoww702]

Enough to get him banned automatically if he lived anywhere except Mexico. 10 times more than the cyclist Alberto Contador had, and he was banned for 2 years.

??? So Alberto was in the negative numbers??? Show link.

[Madison Boxing]

We Be Crooks were never gonna throw there cash cow under the bus

[Shadoww702]

So no proof, just speculation? I thought they were going to do a serious investigation where Canelo would need to provide receipts of where he bought the "contaminated" meat or if he ate out, receipts from the restaurant.

They are. He has to go in front of the Nevada Board. They can suspend him, fine him, or believe him. Like any other court system.and the NAC are pretty tough to convince....

[bigdunny1]

It wasn't an extremely low level. It was multiple times higher than the level needed to get an athlete banned anywhere outside Mexico. That's because the level was consistant with both accidental contamination and cheating.

Coming up clean in subsequent tests is irrelevant, because that is also consistant with both accidental contamination and deliberate cheating.

VADA, WADA, USADA, Memo, Victor Conte and every drug expert is on record saying the amounts are very low. The amount found in cases of meat contamination compared to the amounts found taking pills of this stuff are very different. It's why just simply being from Mexico is not enough for them to agree that it was likely meat contamination. The levels your body has when you are taking these pills are as high as 20-40ng. Canelo had 0.6-0.8ng and 0.06-0.08ng. Again drug expert Memo

https://www.am.com.mx/2018/03/07/general-nacional/deportes/por-este-motivo-habria-saul-alvarez-dado-positivo-en-clembuterol-443139-443139#ixzz59CFfL8SU

"In my opinion, neutral, and as a scientist and with morals, as a professional, with all the experience I have, it is practically due to contamination, since the levels of 'Canelo' are too low, what happens is that there are many problems of clenbuterol in Mexico, "Heredia added.

"There are cases above 20 or 25, or up to 40 nanograms per milliliter, and they are clearly taking that substance as doping"

Victor Conte another drug expert

https://sports.yahoo.com/canelo-alvarez-caught-embarrassing-situation-failed-ped-test-clenbuterol-222205202.html

The concentration of Clenbuterol in Alvarez’s body was low, and that is significant, Conte said.

“When they say trace amounts, it’s way down in the parts per trillion,” Conte said. “You have parts per million, parts per billion and then parts per trillion. You have trace and then this would be called ultra-trace concentrations. So do I think this is likely it came from a contaminated meat source? I do.”

Directly from WADA website who did the test

"we maintain that disciplinary proceedings against athletes with low level urinary concentrations, from countries known for significant risk of exposure, would have little to no prospect of success; and, would be very unfair to the athletes concerned.”

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/ne...rd-documentary

Also from the WADA link.

"All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases."

So literally everyone classifies less then 1ng as low traces why you keep trying to argue this fact that Canelo had low traces is beyond me. He had low traces FACT. Now yes there are examples of athletes who also had low traces even more extremely low and were punished but that's because this is a unnatural substance and they had no plausible excuse for how it got there living in countries that have zero meat problems. Canelo doesn't apply because he is from a country where this substance is in the food supply so that's why they take that into account as well as the low trace amount consistent with meat contamination.

I'll take the word of every drug expert that these are low traces over yours.

[EatKnuckle]

WBC Doctor on Oscar: Trace values of ******* found - likely linked to food contamination.