Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Believes "Shady" Eight Should Push Wilder Rematch

[Sledgeweather17]

I thought it was pretty shady too. Especially considering the Doctor had 60 sec in between rounds to do his job. I doubt it made a difference but why cause speculation. The commission needs to train these people better on how to do their job.

They are trained and they did do their job properly.

If you watch as much boxing as you pretend to then you should already know this. This is how things are done in NY, it's freakin in their rule book and I've seen it happen MANY times in New York fights.

People only complaining coz it's Wilder but clearly didn't bat an eye lash when it happened in countless other NY fights.

[sotgoda]

Others are saying that happens all the time. Well, outside of bad cuts, I've never seem something like that happen that I can remember. So, why not a rematch? It was a good solid fight start to finish. But I'd guess Wilder will say the usual 'we're moving on'. I really don't think he wants any more of what Ortiz brought to the fight. Ortiz would still be the best choice for the next fight, if Wilder can't get his Joshua fight. And it may be a great trilogy in the making.

Wilder will take on Ortiz anytime anyday. Wilder is not afraid of Ortiz. If the AJ fight does not go through and the public demands Ortiz, Wilder will fight him again. That's the swagger Wilder walks with. I think the rematch will be easier for Wilder - Wilder has tasted Ortiz's punch and will make his own adjustments too. I expect it to go like the Stiverne II - but at best 4 rounds this time.

[Raggamuffin]

Ammo for Joshua's fanatics. The fight ends even earlier now that Wilder knows how strong you are and can take your best Sunday punch.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Others are saying that happens all the time. Well, outside of bad cuts, I've never seem something like that happen that I can remember. So, why not a rematch? It was a good solid fight start to finish. But I'd guess Wilder will say the usual 'we're moving on'. I really don't think he wants any more of what Ortiz brought to the fight. Ortiz would still be the best choice for the next fight, if Wilder can't get his Joshua fight. And it may be a great trilogy in the making.

Wilder will take on Ortiz anytime anyday. Wilder is not afraid of Ortiz. If the AJ fight does not go through and the public demands Ortiz, Wilder will fight him again. That's the swagger Wilder walks with. I think the rematch will be easier for Wilder - Wilder has tasted Ortiz's punch and will make his own adjustments too. I expect it to go like the Stiverne II - but at best 4 rounds this time.

I don't believe Wilder is as confident as he lets on. He's a solid HW, has some serious talent, will do well against any top HW currently... but the New Messiah he ain't. But hey, that's just my 37 cents worth... no worries either way. I'd expect the 2nd fight to go similar to the first, but with Ortiz doing a little better in spots. He's learned his opponent too. It isn't just Wilder learning him.

[Elroy The Great]

[sotgoda]

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I don't believe Wilder is as confident as he lets on. He's a solid HW, has some serious talent, will do well against any top HW currently... but the New Messiah he ain't. But hey, that's just my 37 cents worth... no worries either way. I'd expect the 2nd fight to go similar to the first, but with Ortiz doing a little better in spots. He's learned his opponent too. It isn't just Wilder learning him.

You make some interesting points on Ortiz also learning Wilder. I just don't think Wilder is afraid of losing. That is important.

[landotter]

Ortiz got the benefit of a very generous 8 count in round 5 after his first knock down. Basically all the way up to the last 10 seconds of the round, ensuring Wilder had no chance to finish the job. And you know what, it was a good job of refereeing. He made sure to do the one thing that was his main job protect the fighters in the ring. Wilder got the same exact treatment as Ortiz did in round five. As for a rematch, I think all Ortiz has to do is get in a fight before the end of the year and he will absolutely be in line for another huge payday against Wilder or Joshua. But Ortiz is going to have to wait, because I think Joshua and Wilder won't fight each other until next year. And there's no reason for anyone to risk fighting him again. Joshua still has that dangerous fight against Parker, and Wilder has shown he can beat Ortiz. We all know what's coming up. Neither one of those fighters are going to risk it against the dangerous opponent like Ortiz before the huge payday of the main event. But he will get another shot.

[P4Pdunny]

If AJ don't face Wilder next then I'd be happy to see this again

[john l]

Why didn't they send Ortiz to the corner at the beginning of the folowing round he got knocked down in? Because Wilder is a Pbc fighter and every single fight where the Pbc fighter is the A side they get preferential treatment from everyone including the ref, the judges, the medical examiner, the athletic commission, the sanctioning bodies, and even the drug testing agencies. Its outright corruption and it needs to stop. Thats a big reason Pbc gets low ratings

He did get extra time after 1st KN in 10th.And as for 5th he got dropped at end of round and had not taken the punishment Wilder had in 7th.Now I don't like this new rule but they have been doing it in EVERY fight in NY since they got sued big after Perez v Almah(sp?) fight.EVERY FIGHT so got back to your Joshua poster and come up with another.

[PunchyPotorff]

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I don't believe Wilder is as confident as he lets on. He's a solid HW, has some serious talent, will do well against any top HW currently... but the New Messiah he ain't. But hey, that's just my 37 cents worth... no worries either way. I'd expect the 2nd fight to go similar to the first, but with Ortiz doing a little better in spots. He's learned his opponent too. It isn't just Wilder learning him.

You make some interesting points on Ortiz also learning Wilder. I just don't think Wilder is afraid of losing. That is important.

Could be, but if Wilder isn't afraid of losing, Ortiz is definitely not afraid either. My point being, just because it's 1-0 doesn't guarantee it'll be 2-0 after a rematch.