Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: We Don't Need 50-50 Split to Make Joshua Fight

[Stinger1]

Wilder can't do US PPV without Joshua, but Joshua can't do US PPV without Wilder.

As for Wilder's purses, you have no idea what he actually make, only what is listed. Do you believe Cotto was really only paid 750k for his retirement fight?

If Parker is getting 33.3%, with a smaller name, a smaller belt, and from a smaller country, Wilder will definitely get more than 35%.

Come on Al isn't sprinkling much more than a few hundred grand on top. The Cotto purse would just be his guarantee as it was a PPV fight so his total purse would be higher depending on how many buys it does.

What you and many other on here don't seem to realise is Eddie and AJ have all the cards and don't need Wilder. If Wilder wants to sit there and say "AJ aint big in the US yet" I deserve more than 35%, then Eddie and AJ will come and fight Miller in the US, sell out the Barclays and do higher numbers on Showtime. Then what's Wilder's excuse going to be for not accepting the % Eddie and AJ want to give him?

Time is ticking, eventually Wilder's mandatory will be called and we know he doesn't want to fight Dillian Whyte. So is Wilder going to step up and take the fight on Eddie and AJ's terms? Or is going to keep making his $2-3 million purses fighting bums.

[MisanthropicNY]

The UFC already laid out the blueprint for putting on a fight at a more inconvenient time in the UK while still having it on in a PPV-friendly time for the US market. Those Brits will come out anytime to see Joshua fight.

There is 0 need for the fight to be in Vegas. The fight should absolutely be in the UK at a US-friendly PPV time just like that Bisping UFC PPV.

[Stinger1]

And AJ isn't fighting on US PPV or bringing in a 10 million gate without Wilder. Will Hearn pay AJ 20 million when he fights Baby Miller at Barclays? I seriously doubt that fight would even make that in total revenue. So just because Wilder will be making 5-10 times more than his biggest payday, he should just leave money on the table.

All AJ fights will do a minimum of 1 million UK PPV's even if they're in the US. The price would probably be £22 which is $31. So it would generate $31 million just from UK tv revenue. AJ would easily sell out the Barclays as so many Brits would come over so if we assume an average ticket price of $150, that's another $3m. That's before Showtime and the rest of the worlds tv networks have paid up for rights. Jarrell Miller is only going to be paid $3-5 million like Takam so Joshua would easily bag $20m+ for the Miller fight.

[filup79]

How many PPVs has Wilder sold so far? Why didn't Wilder bring the US PPV market for Stiverne 2 or the Ortiz fight then? Just wondering...

Don't be ******, those fights weren't big fights. How many US PPV fights has AJ sold? How many arenas has AJ sold out in the US? AJ isn't selling out no US Arena or fighting on PPV against fighters like Stiverne , Ortiz or Baby Miller. If the fight is made in the UK, then Wilder should take as much as he is offered. If the fight is in Vegas, which will be on US PPV and with a bigger gate than the UK, Team Wilder shouldn't just leave money on the table.

[Butch.McRae]

And AJ isn't fighting on US PPV or bringing in a 10 million gate without Wilder. Will Hearn pay AJ 20 million when he fights Baby Miller at Barclays? I seriously doubt that fight would even make that in total revenue. So just because Wilder will be making 5-10 times more than his biggest payday, he should just leave money on the table.

People who think Joshua will be fighting on a Saturday night card in the US on premium cable, are not very bright.

His fight purse would kill 3 or 4 cards from that networks boxing schedule, and the event would lose over $10 million easily. The dude us making $15 million+ right now lol

A live gate for a solid card like Thurman v. Garcia or Wilder v. Ortiz is only pulling in cash in the low millions (at most $4 million, more likely $2 million on the average 12k attendance card).

The money in the U.S. isn't there unless he's fighting Wilder and it's on PPV.

[Stinger1]

Don't be ******, those fights weren't big fights. How many US PPV fights has AJ sold? How many arenas has AJ sold out in the US? AJ isn't selling out no US Arena or fighting on PPV against fighters like Stiverne , Ortiz or Baby Miller. If the fight is made in the UK, then Wilder should take as much as he is offered. If the fight is in Vegas, which will be on US PPV and with a bigger gate than the UK, Team Wilder shouldn't just leave money on the table.

AJ could sell out any arena in the US. Ricky Hatton took 10,000-20,000 fans for his fights against Castillo, Mayweather and Pacquiao. AJ is 10x the star Hatton was. He would have no problem selling out any 20,000 arena in the US.

[Butch.McRae]

All AJ fights will do a minimum of 1 million UK PPV's even if they're in the US. The price would probably be £22 which is $31. So it would generate $31 million just from UK tv revenue. AJ would easily sell out the Barclays as so many Brits would come over so if we assume an average ticket price of $150, that's another $3m. That's before Showtime and the rest of the worlds tv networks have paid up for rights. Jarrell Miller is only going to be paid $3-5 million like Takam so Joshua would easily bag $20m+ for the Miller fight.

There are so many bad assumptions in this breakdown. Where's your comparables? I'm not convinced of the million buys in the UK (based on his Charles Martin numbers). I'm also not buying the traveling ticketers assumption. NYC isn't Vegas and doesnt have the infrastructure that lends itself to the same sort of traveling audience.

[Butch.McRae]

AJ could sell out any arena in the US. Ricky Hatton took 10,000-20,000 fans for his fights against Castillo, Mayweather and Pacquiao. AJ is 10x the star Hatton was. He would have no problem selling out any 20,000 arena in the US.

Again, NYC isn't Vegas. This is a bad assumption.

[Stinger1]

There are so many bad assumptions in this breakdown. Where's your comparables? I'm not convinced of the million buys in the UK (based on his Charles Martin numbers). I'm also not buying the traveling ticketers assumption. NYC isn't Vegas and doesnt have the infrastructure that lends itself to the same sort of traveling audience.

As per this article from Eddie Hearn Froch-Groves did 850,000 buys. Mayweather-Hatton 1.01m. Mayweather-Pacquiao 1.1m.”

Ricky Hatton took 10,000 fans for Castillo as per this article. Cheered on by an estimated 10,000 British fans, "Hatton, billed for the bout as the Manchester Mexican, entered the ring in a sombrero and poncho in Manchester City colours."

[Stinger1]

Again, NYC isn't Vegas. This is a bad assumption.

It's ALOT easier and cheaper for Brits to travel to NYC than Vegas. I don't get your point.