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  • #41
    Originally posted by Stinger1 View Post
    Your logic is flawed because Wilder can't do PPV without Joshua. Wilder can't make a purse much above $2 million without Joshua. Wilder needs Joshua to make the big money. Even at 30-35% split Wilder will be making $15-20m. That's 5-10 times more than he can make fighting anyone else.
    Wilder can't do US PPV without Joshua, but Joshua can't do US PPV without Wilder.

    As for Wilder's purses, you have no idea what he actually make, only what is listed. Do you believe Cotto was really only paid 750k for his retirement fight?

    If Parker is getting 33.3%, with a smaller name, a smaller belt, and from a smaller country, Wilder will definitely get more than 35%.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by filup79 View Post
      How is Hearn gonna make money of the Wilder/Whyte fight? Only way he makes money if he promotes the fight. The fight could go to a purse bid and it's team Wilder's, as the champion who decide where the fight is.
      UK PPV. And that's not how it works. The promoter who wins the purse bid gets to choose where the fight is. Al Haymon hasn't paid much more than $3m for a total purse of Wilder fights. Eddie offered Wilder $4m and would have no problem outbidding Haymon for that fight.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        Very realistic view! Joshua brings in most money, Joshua gets most money! If Vegas makes most money, the fight is in Vegas! Seems Barry Hearn is a sensible man. Seems Eddie Hearn doesn't want that work...yet!
        If the fight is in the UK that's understandable that AJ gets the bigger cut. But if its in the US than Team Wilder shouldn't give up a bigger split to AJ. AJ isn't selling out Vegas or selling any US PPVs. Wilder brings the money fight to Vegas and the US PPV market for AJ. No other fighter will give Hearn and AJ that. Parker isn't bringing nothing to the table other than a belt. Both Wilder and AJ aren't US PPV stars or bringing in 15 million gates in the US. They both need each other. AJ isn't getting no 10 million gate in Vegas or fighting on PPV against Baby Miller.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by filup79 View Post
          If the fight is made in Vegas than Wilder should get compensated as much as AJ. AJ is proven ticket seller in the UK, but that's the UK and not Vegas. Why would Wilder give up money when it will be because of Wilder that AJ will be getting that US PPV revenue. Both AJ and Wilder aren't proven ticket sellers in Vegas but AJ deserves more than 50%? Parker and Wilder are totally different fighters when it comes to money. No way Wilder takes the same deal as Parker. Parker doesn't bring nothing to the table as Wilder does financially.
          Your logic is pretty much as idiotic as logic can be, but then again you're writing from a fanboy perspective.

          Joshua makes over $20 mil without Windmill - Windmill made $2 mil in his biggest fight thus far. Without each other Joshua makes more than 10X as much.

          Ya'll notice FIomos who are now Windmill Shills are now making the opposite arguments that they made when it was Manny-Floyd

          #FanboyLivesMatter

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
            Considering that Wilder was standing right behind Finkel nodding in agreement when this was said, i think its safe to say he knows.

            Any intelligent boxing fan knows this too. The split will be between 35 - 40%.

            Just like we knew Parker would get between 30 - 35%. This ain't rocket science.

            AJ's fan base are true protectionists lol
            Yeah, we all do know this. Wilder was the only one who seemed not to.

            I’m glad he’s changed his mind. Perhaps the fight can get made now.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by filup79 View Post
              If the fight is in the UK that's understandable that AJ gets the bigger cut. But if its in the US than Team Wilder shouldn't give up a bigger split to AJ. AJ isn't selling out Vegas or selling any US PPVs. Wilder brings the money fight to Vegas and the US PPV market for AJ. No other fighter will give Hearn and AJ that. Parker isn't bringing nothing to the table other than a belt. Both Wilder and AJ aren't US PPV stars or bringing in 15 million gates in the US. They both need each other. AJ isn't getting no 10 million gate in Vegas or fighting on PPV against Baby Miller.
              How many PPVs has Wilder sold so far? Why didn't Wilder bring the US PPV market for Stiverne 2 or the Ortiz fight then? Just wondering...

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              • #47
                Originally posted by skinnystev View Post
                birdlegs is the champion and the a side fight should be in las vegas
                I am a Wilder fan and couldn't disagree with you more. AJ is slated to make 18 million against Parker while Wilder made 2.1 million against Ortiz and you have Wilder as the A side. You are right that it would be cool to have it in Vegas but AJ is still the bigger star, even though I would pick Wilder by knockout if they fought.

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                • #48
                  Wilder has alot of people dipping in his pockets. Al Haymon Lou dibella Shelly Finkell and lets not forget his manager with the email. Lol. Before he talks about one Champ. He be more concerned on having one promotiom team.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Stinger1 View Post
                    Your logic is flawed because Wilder can't do PPV without Joshua. Wilder can't make a purse much above $2 million without Joshua. Wilder needs Joshua to make the big money. Even at 30-35% split Wilder will be making $15-20m. That's 5-10 times more than he can make fighting anyone else.
                    And AJ isn't fighting on US PPV or bringing in a 10 million gate without Wilder. Will Hearn pay AJ 20 million when he fights Baby Miller at Barclays? I seriously doubt that fight would even make that in total revenue. So just because Wilder will be making 5-10 times more than his biggest payday, he should just leave money on the table.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Stinger1 View Post
                      The fact that this will become an undisputed fight vs a unification if AJ beats Parker and can be billed as the first undisputed heavyweight fight since Tyson vs whoever it was. That is AJ bringing that added value to the table. Wilder will make a much higher purse despite getting a similar split due to larger plot.
                      It won't if the fight is in the UK. The total size of Joshua v. Klitchsko purse was around $40 million. That's the ceiling for a fight in the UK.

                      In the US I could see a path to a larger total purse. But it's not likely right now.

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