Banning drug cheat Neloterol will become a very good example for the sport of boxing

[Elroy The Great]

Look your idea that Peds should be allowed is not realistic. They are banned for good reasons. They give onr person an advantage over the other in a competition. They can and do cause long term damage to a person's health. Fighters that don't want to do Peds will be forced to go along. Say there are two contractors that are bidding on a job. One follows the safety rules doesn't take short cuts, the other doesn't give a damn about health and safety and if a guy gets hurt he just replaces him. That contractor can come in at a lower price. The other guy complains to the regulators and their solution is to get rid of all health and safety rules to make a level playing field. That's what your suggesting. These fighters are in an dangerous occupation. Your suggestion is going to make it more dangerous.

the ''advantages'' lay between the ears

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...s-1575159.html

yeah, roids be dangerous

[Citizen Koba]

do yourself a favor, go look at some roid fights and ask yourself......
''is this what im crying over ?''

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing-boxers-dying-or-left-seriously-injured-after-fights-1575159.html

them roids be dangerous

Crying? You got some weird ideas, man. There was me thinking we were trying to have a rational discussion.

Of course there has always been tragedies in this sport, and of course many of them were not attributable to the use of substances that gave one or other fighter an advantage (although it's impossible to know for sure in most cases whether any such substance was involved)... but if there is a reasonable likelihood that even one life could be saved by by removing PEDs from the sport then surely you agree that every effort must be made to do so?

[Elroy The Great]

Crying? You got some weird ideas, man. There was me thinking we were trying to have a rational discussion.

Of course there has always been tragedies in this sport, and of course many of them were not attributable to the use of substances that gave one or other fighter an advantage (although it's impossible to know for sure in most cases whether any such substance was involved)... but if there is a reasonable likelihood that even one life could be saved by by removing PEDs from the sport then surely you agree that every effort must be made to do so?

not many, NONE

it seems roid haters are reluctant to loook at roid fights for very obvious reasons. ive approached roids from almost every angle. ive named names. ive pro/con the shlt. i put up fights....ive even posted a clen link.

what do your team do ? name call and ''roids MIGHT....''

seriously, go watch roids in ''action''. dont be so reluctant.

[Elroy The Great]

can anyone answer this ??????

roid muscles vs real muscles...whats the diff ????

[Citizen Koba]

not many, NONE

it seems roid haters are reluctant to loook at roid fights for very obvious reasons. ive approached roids from almost every angle. ive named names. ive pro/con the shlt. i put up fights....ive even posted a clen link.

what do your team do ? name call and ''roids MIGHT....''

seriously, go watch roids in ''action''. dont be so reluctant.

That is indeed a bold statement, How do you know how many of the opponents (or indeed the injured parties themselves) had used or abused some substance that is now on say, the VADA banned list? It's not like testing is widespread, and indeed within the profession the consensus is that it barely scratches the surface. The argument you're attempting is known as a logical fallacy. The fact that evidence is thin on the ground is not proof that a problem is not real. During the timescale of most of the fights you list testing was non-existent, yet PEDs of one sort or another - including ******* and alcohol in the early years - are documented as have been around as long as the professional sport itself.

Besides which, you've yet to answer a direct question. Logically is it reasonable to assume that the use of substances which are proven to have an advantageous physical effect on other athletes could increase the risk to opposing fighters in a boxing match? Let's be clear here - I'm asking for your judgement on a balance of probabilities NOT direct and irrefutable proof either way, because it doesn't exist.

[TonyGe]

the ''advantages'' lay between the ears

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...s-1575159.html

yeah, roids be dangerous

This article was published by the Mayo Clinic one if the most prestigious hospitals in the world.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/in-depth/performance-enhancing-drugs/art-20046134?pg=2
If you don't realize that there is a price to pay for using steroids after reading this I have to wonder whether you just want to create a controversy..

[Citizen Koba]

This article was published by the Mayo Clinic one if the most prestigious hospitals in the world.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/in-depth/performance-enhancing-drugs/art-20046134?pg=2

If you don't realize that there is a price to pay for using steroids after reading this I have to wonder whether you just want to create a controversy..

I'm seriously not sure whether Elroy's playing devil's advocate here, or some other form of weird trolling. He's an odd chap though - mostly he comes across as a fairly rational and often amusing poster, but then every once in a while, something like this...

[Elroy The Great]

That is indeed a bold statement, How do you know how many of the opponents (or indeed the injured parties themselves) had used or abused some substance that is now on say, the VADA banned list? It's not like testing is widespread, and indeed within the profession the consensus is that it barely scratches the surface. The fact that evidence is thin on the ground is not proof than a problem is not real. During the timescale of most of the fights you list testing was non-existent, yet it PEDs of one sort or another - including ******* and alcohol in the early years - are documented as have been around as long as the professional sport itself.

Besides which, you've yet to answer a direct question. Logically is it reasonable to assume that the use of substances which are proven to have an advantageous physical effect on other athletes could increase the risk to opposing fighters in a boxing match? Let's be clear here - I'm asking for your judgement on a balance of probabilities NOT direct and irrefutable proof either way, because it doesn't exist.

i also posted a list of ALL KNOWN ''cheaters''. but of course your side has to conjure up the possibilities that some cheaters slipped through the net while others didnt. is that the game your team is going play with EVERY FIGHT ?!?!?! dirty until your clique say theyre clean......

that if game

ooooooooooook, i will do what your team REFUSES to do....answer a question.

lets say roids/p'e'ds/all of it do what your team say they do....AND ?!?!? i mean, how creative should my imagination be ?!!?!?!? since getting hit on the head can lead to anything, i ''guess'' a roided fight can inflict ''more'' damage

something along those lines ?!?!?

but guys are ACTUALLY getting punished in this GUESSING GAME.

any chances of you answering a question or nah ?

[Elroy The Great]

This article was published by the Mayo Clinic one if the most prestigious hospitals in the world.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/in-depth/performance-enhancing-drugs/art-20046134?pg=2

If you don't realize that there is a price to pay for using steroids after reading this I have to wonder whether you just want to create a controversy..

''risks''
smdh

i can guarantee you ABUSE plays a HUGE part in those risk factors.

''risks''............

I'm seriously not sure whether Elroy's playing devil's advocate here, or some other form of weird trolling. He's an odd chap though - mostly he comes across as a fairly rational and often amusing poster, but then every once in a while, something like this...

wow, you agree with someone on your team. thats odd

[Elroy The Great]

''i will not watch roids in action. the guessing game is more funner ''