Was Ortiz an A-level fighter or a B-level fighter

[KillaCamNZ]

Because of the lack of depth in the HW division, Ortiz looks like A-level.

Reality is, he's a B- kind of guy. In another generation, he'd be a gatekeeper.

[Sheldon312]

He was much technically better than AJ. C’mon man.
I’m not saying you have to be technically good to be an A-Level fighter for example, Henry Armstrong wasn’t technically great but his resume and accolades proved he was at the highest level.
AJ simply isn’t at that level in terms of ability, resume and accolades yet.

I get your point but I don't think you are giving AJ his just due. Yeah young Foreman was probably a little more technical but he didn't throw fast accurate combos like Joshua does.

[krazyn8tive]

Well what is ELITE to you ?

You think Wilder defeats M. Tyson.

Ortiz is arguably the most dangerous southpaw to ever box at HW _


Wilder was on the verge to getting stopped in the 7th , surely you have to give your definition of ELITE bc how you come across doesn't add up .


No offence but im still not sure this is still a serious poster on here ?

He's not. Clearly an armchair fan with an armchair post.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I get your point but I don't think you are giving AJ his just due. Yeah young Foreman was probably a little more technical but he didn't throw fast accurate combos like Joshua does.

He didn’t have the same hand speed as AJ but his combos where much more lethal. For instance, Foreman’s Jab-Right Cross-Left Hook was WAAAY more damaging and effective than anything AJ has in his arsenal.
I can’t believe AJ is being compared to Foreman😂😂 we need to end this it’s getting silly.

[sotgoda]

So, for these delusional AJ fans, when (not if) Wilder beats AJ, since you are calling AJ an A-level fighter, will that then make Wilder an A+ level fighter or will that now downgrade AJ to a B+/A- level fighter. Just want to understand your logic... if you even have one.

[Sheldon312]

So, for these delusional AJ fans, when (not if) Wilder beats AJ, since you are calling AJ an A-level fighter, will that then make Wilder an A+ level fighter or will that now downgrade AJ to a B+/A- level fighter. Just want to understand your logic... if you even have one.

Not necessarily. Foreman destroyed Frazier and I would personally consider them both to be A plus fighters.

[sicko]

I think Ortiz beats MOST in the Heavyweight Division STILL despite his age. Put Whyte in with him I think he destroys Whyte! Him vs Povetkin would be good also!

[sotgoda]

Not necessarily. Foreman destroyed Frazier and I would personally consider them both to be A plus fighters.

So, you are saying Wilder gets promoted to A-level when he beats AJ but AJ is already A-level without beating Wilder? Interesting logic.

[Sheldon312]

So, you are saying Wilder gets promoted to A-level when he beats AJ but AJ is already A-level without beating Wilder? Interesting logic.

Aj beat Wlad who looked really good. I do not think that Wilder beats the Wlad that AJ fought. Aj has a better resume and is the more skilled fighter imo.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

A fighter

The guy nearly beat wilder and was winning on my scorecard, just got caught by wilder’s power.

Ortiz is stil a top 3 or 4 heavyweight