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  • #71
    Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
    It’s just the fact that most gggroupies out there talked all this trash about how no one last 12 with ggg, ggg is the monster best in the world will ko anyone anywhere... all while fighting bums. That myth was busted by Jacobs and canelo, his only two legit opponents. Add to that, y’all claimed that canelo was scared, and this and that. Talked too much trash prior to canelo va ggg 1. Now, you all are quiet, no ko predictions lol. What happened? Ggg got old in 6 months? Ggg is a good lil fighter, not an atg, not a hof like canelo will be. Nuff said
    Lumping everyone together is a pretty primitive mentality. I've often said that some of Golovkins career has been abit disappointing, as I'd have rather seen good matches instead of a quest to win belts from the likes of Lemieux. I've also never called any fighter scared. But on balance, some fans become abit fragile when it's pointed out them that Canelos best win is Trout, that he lost to an old welterweight, that Lara looked to have outboxed him, and he's best wins are blown up welters or drained supermiddles. If we're going to do criticism it has to be balanced. Canelo has to win this to even think about the hall of fame. We can't just pretend Golovkin isn't 36.Outside BHop, that has always been considered old for a non heavy. The last performance was nowhere near what a HOF in he's prime should be turning in. Let's be objective.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
      It's not saying much GGG never hurt him. Old slow VADA GGG could barely land a clean power shot all night. His haters will jump on me saying this and say that proves he is a bum, but is BHop a bum because he lost to Kovalev? Every boxer gets old, and every boxer gets old at different times. 50 year old BHop never did 365 drug testing. 36 year old GGG has been doing it for years. I think GGG's team needs to demand Canelo do the same drug testing they are 365 days a year, otherwise this fight should not be sanctioned because it could pit a PED boxer against a clean boxer, which is very dangerous. GGG showed in the first fight even with huge disadvantages he can cope, but it's still not a fair playing field. All boxing fans want even playing fields. Haters do not. Im a boxing fan, so I want an even playing field, and I dont think these fights are happening on one.

      But, that's also on GGG's team. They should have made a bigger issue about it. Apparently, the money is good enough for Team GGG to throw GGG to the wolves and keep quiet about it. At least, that's what it looks like. I hope I'm wrong.
      Hopkins got knocked down and lost every single round to Kovalev. GGG arguably won 8 of 12 rounds vs Canelo. No comparison there at all. GGG will get old and look terrible, and it may be in May who knows, but he didn't look old vs Canelo.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by rrayvez View Post
        can't help but bring this to your attention. You're basically sharing that you weren't attracted to a hot female and then coming on a boxing website about 5am your time to ask another guy who you've never met whether he also has had a situation where he wasn't attracted to a hot female? Superrrr suspect.
        Whats suspect about knowing someone is better than you??? And deserves the best 100%??? Whats odd is how creepy you made it

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
          Lumping everyone together is a pretty primitive mentality. I've often said that some of Golovkins career has been abit disappointing, as I'd have rather seen good matches instead of a quest to win belts from the likes of Lemieux. I've also never called any fighter scared. But on balance, some fans become abit fragile when it's pointed out them that Canelos best win is Trout, that he lost to an old welterweight, that Lara looked to have outboxed him, and he's best wins are blown up welters or drained supermiddles. If we're going to do criticism it has to be balanced. Canelo has to win this to even think about the hall of fame. We can't just pretend Golovkin isn't 36.Outside BHop, that has always been considered old for a non heavy. The last performance was nowhere near what a HOF in he's prime should be turning in. Let's be objective.
          I said “most” not everyone. You have your opinions I have mine. Fact is ggg isn’t improving at 36 with two legit opponents with 1 draw and 1 win officially where those results weren’t clear, canelo, say what you want... he is still under 30 yr old and he has room to grow and put names in his resume. Which his resume is already head and shoulders above ggg. Facts

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          • #75
            I don’t think Canelo is referring to the right hand that made GGG stumble (because he was off-balance).

            There was an even better right a little earlier in that round and then a body shot later in the round that GGG visibly reacted to.

            But conditioning aside, the biggest change Canelo has to make is to effectively subdue GGG’s jab. It was solid and consistent throughout and really troubled Canelo.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
              Lol, damn homie. I'm going thru the same thing with my girl right now. I've already got rid of her twice and she keeps coming back. She's cool as fucc, we get along great, she does everything for me and she looks good but I just don't feel the spark....
              Well you told her where you stand so if she decides to stick around then fucc it! Keep fuccing her but at the same time do your thing on the side. You don't owe her anything.
              If you find someone else then just tell her she gotta go.
              That simple
              I hear ya! But shes fkn SUPER awesome and sweet??? I just like the bad ass gangsta chicks...

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                I said “most” not everyone. You have your opinions I have mine. Fact is ggg isn’t improving at 36 with two legit opponents with 1 draw and 1 win officially where those results weren’t clear, canelo, say what you want... he is still under 30 yr old and he has room to grow and put names in his resume. Which his resume is already head and shoulders above ggg. Facts
                Well when you were referring to me it was as "yall", kind of implying that I can't see anything to critique in Golovkin. But the fact is that Canelo may not improve now either, since he's already had a pretty long pro career.If we really look at he's wins, he only has two good ones too, Trout and Lara. If we take out the welters like Mosley and Cotto. So if we take a good fight with Trout, which I thought he won, and one with Lara, which many thought he lost, and a loss to an old welterweight, there's nothing clearly better about he's resume than GGGs. And the last one, against an older guy who you say isn't HOF, he escaped with a draw. He's got it all to prove this time if he's to prove he's as good as you claim.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
                  Well when you were referring to me it was as "yall", kind of implying that I can't see anything to critique in Golovkin. But the fact is that Canelo may not improve now either, since he's already had a pretty long pro career.If we really look at he's wins, he only has two good ones too, Trout and Lara. If we take out the welters like Mosley and Cotto. So if we take a good fight with Trout, which I thought he won, and one with Lara, which many thought he lost, and a loss to an old welterweight, there's nothing clearly better about he's resume than GGGs. And the last one, against an older guy who you say isn't HOF, he escaped with a draw. He's got it all to prove this time if he's to prove he's as good as you claim.
                  Regardless, canelo has wins against at least two future first ballot hall of famers... ggg, none. Still under 30 and you say he can’t improve because he has has a long career? Wasn’t one of the narratives before canelo vs ggg 1 that ggg was great at cutting the ring and had some of the best footwork because of it, and canelos was a flat cement footed plodder? Didn’t canelo box using his foot movement? Was that not improvement in his most recent fight? Or is he not gonna improve anymore because that’s the fight that made him a veteran in the Game at a young age? He has improved every fight since Mayweather. He will continue to do so, next is work rate. He will be more active with ggg and light that boy up like a Christmas tree
                  Last edited by Robi13; 03-03-2018, 10:16 AM.

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                  • #79
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                    • #80
                      Yet he kept on coming...and you kept on running!l Why not plant your feet and finish him off then? lol

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