what is the NSB consensus on Luis Ortiz?

[bboy80]

Hes old.
One Paced.
A known Drug Cheat.
But Hes got skillz.

But the skillz wont be enough I think, he will most likely get stopped in the 2nd half of the fight.

If he can counter Wilder early and regularly though he has a good chance.

[STREET CLEANER]

All of the world's leading experts have him in the top 5, and frankly, most of them have him in the top 3 or 4.

NSB agreed completely when they thought Wilder was avoiding him. As soon as Wilder agreed to fight him, suddenly Ortiz was 130 years old, over the hill, slow, a bum, etc.

This sums it up.. He is the best completion available for Wilder at this moment

[NEETzsche]

For sure top five. Not sure if how far he is from his prime at this point but if he's still anywhere near the guy he was in 2015 then Wilder could be in trouble

[DON POWER]

All of the world's leading experts have him in the top 5, and frankly, most of them have him in the top 3 or 4.

NSB agreed completely when they thought Wilder was avoiding him. As soon as Wilder agreed to fight him, suddenly Ortiz was 130 years old, over the hill, slow, a bum, etc.

that's not saying much the division is shit right now.

[Little Mac 91]

A fighter will stay on his rank until he catches losses, right? But what about the aging factor how is that properly accounted for? Technically you could have X rank that is stretched out over a 5 year period from 35 to 40 but are you really at the some level of performance at the end of the stretch compared to at the beginning? Theory and practise might collide here resulting in a distorted conclusion.

[N/A]

Parker is almost universally ranked no.3. Joshua is always keeping that one step ahead of Wilder.

Parker has a high ranking because of his belt, but Ortiz has beaten better fighters. Which is why Ortiz is #4 in the computerized rankings and Parker is #7.

[techliam]

Parker has a high ranking because of his belt, but Ortiz has beaten better fighters. Which is why Ortiz is #4 in the computerized rankings and Parker is #7.

The computerised rankings aren’t always accurate. Seems to me like a case of preferring one set of rankings when it seems convenient..

Stiverne was only ranked so highly because of his belt. It is what it is

Takam is arguably the best fighter between all opponents so not sure how you reached your conclusion. Ortiz hasn’t fought anyone of note, other than perhaps Jennings..

[rickJen]

One of those fighters who look good fighting nobodies.

[Mammoth]

Top 4. Much better than Parker.

[billeau2]

Sometimes stereotypes are so on target. Ortiz is to Cuban fighters what Playboy used to be to the girl next door. I have always been a fan of Cuban fighters, they usually have impeccable technique, are smart and competitive. Their fatal flaw seems to be the ability to stay on track and make sure they are ready to grab the gold ring when the time comes!

Ortiz may have more power than a few of his fellow countrymen that came up recently, he certainly has the skill sets. I fell in love with Odlanier Solís lol. I felt like he may have been better than Ortiz but Ortiz has more natural power...both men have a lot in their bag of tricks.

It is encouraging that Ortiz appears at a good weight, Wilder has really been putting his punches together well so this figures to be a decent fight.

I would not sell Ortiz short here but think Wilder has come along as a pure puncher. Expect to see Ortiz lose a contraversal decision that probably should go to Ortiz and expect for it to generate a lot of threads here.