what is the NSB consensus on Luis Ortiz?

[N/A]

The computerised rankings aren’t always accurate. Seems to me like a case of preferring one set of rankings when it seems convenient..

every rating system has its flaws. i personally prefer tbrb, which had ortiz higher than wilder when they were scheduled to fight last year. ortoz got pulled from tbrb when he failed his drug test, but before that they had him #2 in the world.

http://www.tbrb.org/2017/10/17/10-october-2017/

Stiverne was only ranked so highly because of his belt. It is what it is

yes, as he should have been. championships always way heavily in my rankings, i simply dont recognize the WBO as a world title on par with the others.

[KingHippo]

He's a Wilder opponent, which automatically makes him a bum.

[daggum]

i would say hes a bigger version of muhammad ali. maybe a mix between holmes and ali. oh and with the power of foreman

[KingHippo]

every rating system has its flaws. i personally prefer tbrb, which had ortiz higher than wilder when they were scheduled to fight last year. ortoz got pulled from tbrb when he failed his drug test, but before that they had him #2 in the world.

Same here. Only rankings I trust.

[The Problem Child]

I'm not sure, we'll find out tonight where he truly ranks regardless of outcome.

[Larry the boss]

top 5 heavyweight, undefeated technical boxer with huge power

[rickJen]

Nobody really knows.
Hasn't fought anyone of note.
You could say the same thing with Deontae.
He could either make Wilder look average.
Or the other way around.

[john l]

All of the world's leading experts have him in the top 5, and frankly, most of them have him in the top 3 or 4.

NSB agreed completely when they thought Wilder was avoiding him. As soon as Wilder agreed to fight him, suddenly Ortiz was 130 years old, over the hill, slow, a bum, etc.

Bingo.........

[john l]

He used to be considered one of the best in the divison, but now that Wilder is fighting him, he is either:

1) 50 year old talentless grandpa
2) Overhyped drug cheat

If he was indeed a good fighter, that would conflict with their narrative certain posters are clinging to that Wilder won't fight anyone good. They've been saying he's a talentless, crude hypejob for almost a decade now, so it would be very embarrassing for them if that wasn't the case.

What he just said.

[KingHippo]

Nobody really knows.
Hasn't fought anyone of note.
You could say the same thing with Deontae.
He could either make Wilder look average.
Or the other way around.

Destroyed Jennings in what can be described as one of the most skillful displays I've seen from a heavyweight fighter ever. Completely crushed his dreams. Defeated in a much more impressive fashion then Klishtko.