what is the NSB consensus on Luis Ortiz?

[-MEGA-]

I happen to think he’s damn good. Too 5 HW, Imo.


What does NSB think though??

[N/A]

I happen to think he’s damn good. Too 5 HW, Imo.


What does NSB think though??

All of the world's leading experts have him in the top 5, and frankly, most of them have him in the top 3 or 4.

NSB agreed completely when they thought Wilder was avoiding him. As soon as Wilder agreed to fight him, suddenly Ortiz was 130 years old, over the hill, slow, a bum, etc.

[b00g13man]

He's at worst #3 or 4 in the division. He's a legit opponent.

[Elroy The Great]

one dimensional

hw version of mugambi

[Southpawology]

hes good...38 is getting up there though

[Elroy The Great]

hes good...38 is getting up there though

kov fans must hate your sig

[paulf]

He used to be considered one of the best in the divison, but now that Wilder is fighting him, he is either:

1) 50 year old talentless grandpa
2) Overhyped drug cheat

If he was indeed a good fighter, that would conflict with their narrative certain posters are clinging to that Wilder won't fight anyone good. They've been saying he's a talentless, crude hypejob for almost a decade now, so it would be very embarrassing for them if that wasn't the case.

[Pigeons]

I happen to think he’s damn good. Too 5 HW, Imo.


What does NSB think though??

#3 HW after Joshua and Wilder.

[Elroy The Great]

#3 HW after Joshua and Wilder.

the thing with ranks....

1 legit good guy/champ
2-15 legit bums

but there will be a
#2
#3
#4
and so on.

hell, sometimes the champ himself will be a bum.

[cork]

Top 5. I'll probably put him behind fury for sure maybe below Parker but not farther than five. Hard to weed out the top.

I'm not even sure how good Wilder is. If I bet it's probably be Ortiz over Wilder tomorrow.