Comments Thread For: Whyte: I Saw Wilder KO'd in Gym, But Ortiz is 1,000 Years Old

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

My hope is I'm right about Wilders power being that good.Im talking Foreman/Shavers good athough in a different way.Not heavy handed like Foreman but more like snap power like Hearns.Really that's the kind of power he needs.He needs to be a 214pd Tommy Hearns with the jab and st8 right.He don't have Hearns left hook to body but those other two punches are starting to look more and more like the Hitman.I also don't see no quit in Wilder so Ortiz will have to finish him because I don't see him giving up or going into a shell.

I think his power is legit for sure, whether it’s the same devestating level as a Foreman or Shavers, I’m not sure. I think we’ll have to see him in there with real tough opposition to find out. Hopefully Ortiz will give us a better indication.
Good point about the jab if he can establish that early it becomes a much easier fight for him

[john l]

I think his power is legit for sure, whether it’s the same devestating level as a Foreman or Shavers, I’m not sure. I think we’ll have to see him in there with real tough opposition to find out. Hopefully Ortiz will give us a better indication.
Good point about the jab if he can establish that early it becomes a much easier fight for him

If he cant land that jab he cant win this fight imo.Outside of a weaver v tate thing I cant see it.Ortiz will be right in his grill and like I said he has improved that uppercut a little but he really is a 2 trick poney.But its a he ll of couple tricks that st8 right is scary and that jab has real nice snap.The power we will prob know tomorrow unless Ortiz catches him early.But listen to any of these fighters that have fought/sparred with Wilder they all say his power is the best.Molina, Ian Lewison I think it was who sparred with both him a nd Joshua ALL say Wilder hits harder.Lewison(I think it was him)said Ortiz was 2nd above Joshua that scared me little.Im just REALLY in the belief that a Joshua Wilder fight(trilogy)would do a lot for boxing. Also having this monsterUndisputed Heavy Champ going forward would also be huge.I grew up around the Tyson Era I was into boxing when he was on way up I love to see boxing caption SOME of that.

[Factual Voice]

Already an excuse coming from you I see.And Wilder only had about 25 Am fights so himgetting hurt when he was just a novice means nothing and when he went pro he was still green so getting hurt a little in one fight early in career means nothing either.We will prob find out tomorrow what kind of chin he has.One more thing every time I see someone bringing up Wilders Am fight NEVER talk about Joshua getting stopped I'n Ams also and all the sparring storys(more then I have ever heard about from one fighter).But ill give Joshua the same benefit that I gave Wilder he was a novice Am also(about 30-5 fights) and sparring don't mean sh ite.

Wilder getting dropped hard by a bum Harold Sconiers. A 205 lb 20 loss sconiers who lost to 52 year old razor ruddock[/IMG]

[Factual Voice]

Wilder getting smashed and dropped by bum Harold Sconiers.

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Besides who even gives a shlt about who's being dropped in camp? It's called camp for a reason. It's to prepare and condition yourself for an upcoming bout. I am pretty sure by the time of his being dropped, Klitschko was probably at or near top peak form when he flew Wilder in to spar with him due to his length, height and range. Chances are Deontay probably wasn't in training for a bout at that scheduled time. Therefore chances are he wasn't physically fit or in shape when this sparring session occurred. So whoopty fuc kin doo! He didn't do it in a professional boxing ring even after Wilder called him out because he was scared.

Wilder getting exposed by a 205lb bum Harold Sconiers who just was coming off a loss to 52 year old razor ruddock....No wonder why Haymon and Dibella scrubbed this footage on the internet...

[champion4ever]

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Wilder getting exposed by a 205lb bum Harold Sconiers who just was coming off a loss to 52 year old razor ruddock....No wonder why Haymon and Dibella scrubbed this footage on the internet...

So what, he got dropped. All the all-time greats got dropped at some point in their careers, so what's your point? However, Sconiers didn't win the fight. He lost.

As a matter of fact he got his ass whooped. Wilder dropped him twice in the opening round and in the second he caught Wilder with a wild shot.

Why did you leave out this fact? It's amazing how you conveniently and constantly omit substantial facts when it comes to Deontay Wilder.

Wilder got up off the canvas two rounds later and knocked him out by dropping him twice more, the last one nearly knocked his ass through the bottom rope, before the referee stepped in to save him before Wilder could hurt him and yet "The Bronze Bomber" is still undefeated. So how do you explain that?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If he cant land that jab he cant win this fight imo.Outside of a weaver v tate thing I cant see it.Ortiz will be right in his grill and like I said he has improved that uppercut a little but he really is a 2 trick poney.But its a he ll of couple tricks that st8 right is scary and that jab has real nice snap.The power we will prob know tomorrow unless Ortiz catches him early.But listen to any of these fighters that have fought/sparred with Wilder they all say his power is the best.Molina, Ian Lewison I think it was who sparred with both him a nd Joshua ALL say Wilder hits harder.Lewison(I think it was him)said Ortiz was 2nd above Joshua that scared me little.Im just REALLY in the belief that a Joshua Wilder fight(trilogy)would do a lot for boxing. Also having this monsterUndisputed Heavy Champ going forward would also be huge.I grew up around the Tyson Era I was into boxing when he was on way up I love to see boxing caption SOME of that.

Yeah there’s no questioning his power, I think it’s clear he’s the hardest punching HW atm.
I’m not really a massive fan of the HW division and never have been tbh but I’m genuinely excited about this fight and would be genuinely excited to see AJ-Wilder I just hope these fights happen soon and are not continually drawn out cause of politics and other BS.

[Factual Voice]

So what, he got dropped. All the all-time greats got dropped at some point in their careers, so what's your point? However, Sconiers didn't win the fight. He lost.

As a matter of fact he got his ass whooped. Wilder dropped him twice in the opening round and in the second he caught Wilder with a wild shot.

Why did you leave out this fact? It's amazing how you conveniently and constantly omit substantial facts when it comes to Deontay Wilder.

Wilder got up off the canvas two rounds later and knocked him out by dropping him twice more, the last one nearly knocked his ass through the bottom rope, before the referee stepped in to save him before Wilder could hurt him and yet "The Bronze Bomber" is still undefeated. So how do you explain that?

Because Wilder has fought all bums his entire career and still let a bum put his butt down.

Plenty of fighters get knocked down but not by set up fights like against a bum like Sconiers. Wilders chin is fragile and has been carefully protected his entire career facing tomato can hand picked.

Your boy is a hype job. You you feel about that?

[champion4ever]

Because Wilder has fought all bums his entire career and still let a bum put his butt down.

Plenty of fighters get knocked down but not by set up fights like against a bum like Sconiers. Wilders chin is fragile and has been carefully protected his entire career facing tomato can hand picked.

Your boy is a hype job. You do you feel about that?

Well, we'll definitely know after tonight. If indeed he's one of these hype jobs you are talking about or not.

I guess that's why Anthony Joshua is petrified shltless of this handpicked, tomato can, set up, bum loving fighter and for very good reason; After what he will witness what Wilder does to Luis Ortiz tonight.

Say, why don't you post what you write down on your main account rather than one of your obscure alternative accounts? What are you hiding or concealing? Are you afraid of getting exposed?

[champion4ever]

Factual voice what the freakin kinda name is that?

[john l]

Wilder getting dropped hard by a bum Harold Sconiers. A 205 lb 20 loss sconiers who lost to 52 year old razor ruddock[/IMG]

Yep and I can name 100 fighters with good chins that have been dropped eary in career.And calling that a hard KD is a bit of a stretch.Either way just give the "no chin bum" his credit tonight IF he wins.