Comments Thread For: Whyte: I Saw Wilder KO'd in Gym, But Ortiz is 1,000 Years Old

[john l]

Wilder also got dropped bad in the pros, but they scrubbed the footage. Good luck finding it. Also hurt badly in amateurs. The problem for Ortiz is, star boxers worth a lot of money to the boxing establishment seem to have been allowed to juice up for their big fights recently, so Wilder could possiblt grow a new chin just for this fight we just dont know, but even if he doesn't, the biggest problem for Ortiz is his age. There was a point in time Ortiz looked better than Wilder, but that was 3 years ago. Lately, he hasn't. We'll see what happens.

Already an excuse coming from you I see.And Wilder only had about 25 Am fights so himgetting hurt when he was just a novice means nothing and when he went pro he was still green so getting hurt a little in one fight early in career means nothing either.We will prob find out tomorrow what kind of chin he has.One more thing every time I see someone bringing up Wilders Am fight NEVER talk about Joshua getting stopped I'n Ams also and all the sparring storys(more then I have ever heard about from one fighter).But ill give Joshua the same benefit that I gave Wilder he was a novice Am also(about 30-5 fights) and sparring don't mean sh ite.

[john l]

Honestly sparring stories have become much more common these days, that whole Malanaggi/Mcgregor fiasco opened the door for more and more leaked info that should stay in the gym.

Agree 100% some of these young guys need to get some honor.

[champion4ever]

Wlad trained in the PA pocono mountains. I been to that camp and Wlad has been there numerous times.

Do yourself a favor and Google

Andy Lee says Wilder knocked out
Johnny Nelson Wilder knocked cold

And i gaurentee you find a boxing scene article that gives their take on what happened. I also hace the quote from a trainer there who worked with Wilder abd he said the same exact thing.

You are in denial. You are a weak man needing to lie to yourself . Wilder is a protected hype job to make losers like your pay attention to Heavyweight boxing again thinking you have a hope. You do not. You are just a sucker.

Besides who even gives a shlt about who's being dropped in camp? It's called camp for a reason. It's to prepare and condition yourself for an upcoming bout. I am pretty sure by the time of his being dropped, Klitschko was probably at or near top peak form when he flew Wilder in to spar with him due to his length, height and range. Chances are Deontay probably wasn't in training for a bout at that scheduled time. Therefore chances are he wasn't physically fit or in shape when this sparring session occurred. So whoopty fuc kin doo! He didn't do it in a professional boxing ring even after Wilder called him out because he was scared.

[john l]

That’s probably true tbf. How do you see the fight going tomorrow? I’m thinking Wilder by decision in a comparable manner to Stiverne 1

I'm praying for that.At least that he fights like he did in BOTH Stiverne fights.Which I believe he will try and when Wilder gets that jab going he really is a handful.It opens up that right so well.Tell you the truth I don't even want to pick this fight because I'm afraid Ortiz has enough skills to take away that jab which is hard enough to land with a lefty.Really tough to pick because I do think Wilder has the that NEXT LEVEL power but can he land a LEAD right idk.Im hoping he can but not sure yet.Im kinda thrown off by his weight(214)why so low?Thats about 10-15 pds lighter then he has been for most of reign he was 222 for last one but most have been in mid to upper 220s.

[john l]

Wlad trained in the PA pocono mountains. I been to that camp and Wlad has been there numerous times.

Do yourself a favor and Google

Andy Lee says Wilder knocked out
Johnny Nelson Wilder knocked cold

And i gaurentee you find a boxing scene article that gives their take on what happened. I also hace the quote from a trainer there who worked with Wilder abd he said the same exact thing.

You are in denial. You are a weak man needing to lie to yourself . Wilder is a protected hype job to make losers like your pay attention to Heavyweight boxing again thinking you have a hope. You do not. You are just a sucker.

And Joshua it seems has been KOed in sparring by every heavy in England.Oh yea and a cruiser too.It means nothing.

[john l]

Besides who even gives a shlt about who's being dropped in camp? It's called camp for a reason. It's to prepare and condition yourself for an upcoming bout. I am pretty sure by the time of his being dropped, Klitschko was probably at or near top peak form when he flew Wilder in to spar with him due to his length, height and range. Chances are Deontay probably wasn't in training for a bout at that scheduled time. Therefore chances are he wasn't physically fit or in shape when this sparring session occurred. So whoopty fuc kin doo! He didn't do it in a professional boxing ring even after Wilder called him out because he was scared.

Nice points.And he was just a novice sparring the CHAMP.Its not like he got knocked cold by a NOVICE CRUISER

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I'm praying for that.At least that he fights like he did in BOTH Stiverne fights.Which I believe he will try and when Wilder gets that jab going he really is a handful.It opens up that right so well.Tell you the truth I don't even want to pick this fight because I'm afraid Ortiz has enough skills to take away that jab which is hard enough to land with a lefty.Really tough to pick because I do think Wilder has the that NEXT LEVEL power but can he land a LEAD right idk.Im hoping he can but not sure yet.Im kinda thrown off by his weight(214)why so low?Thats about 10-15 pds lighter then he has been for most of reign he was 222 for last one but most have been in mid to upper 220s.

Him coming in light suggests to me he wants to be more mobile, I expect him to box cautiously and to try and keep it at long range.
Ortiz certainly isn’t as dynamic as he was a couple of years ago but he is still highly skilled and dangerous, I think Wilder can’t be two aggressive cause if he comes rushing in Ortiz could time him with that big left hand.

[john l]

Him coming in light suggests to me he wants to be more mobile, I expect him to box cautiously and to try and keep it at long range.
Ortiz certainly isn’t as dynamic as he was a couple of years ago but he is still highly skilled and dangerous, I think Wilder can’t be two aggressive cause if he comes rushing in Ortiz could time him with that big left hand.

Yea to win this fight he needs to control distance and find a way to land that jab and then slide a right in once in a while.And I believe he will fight that way but a very skilled fighter can take away 1 punch sometimes.One thing that's got me thinking is Wilder seems to REALLY like to throw that jab from hip(which is great sometimes)but he will need to change it up sometimes I think or Ortiz if he is smart(which I sure he is)can jab at his left shoulder and slip inside.Thats one place Wilder deff don't want to be even though he has seemed to make his uppercut a little tighter lately.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yea to win this fight he needs to control distance and find a way to land that jab and then slide a right in once in a while.And I believe he will fight that way but a very skilled fighter can take away 1 punch sometimes.One thing that's got me thinking is Wilder seems to REALLY like to throw that jab from hip(which is great sometimes)but he will need to change it up sometimes I think or Ortiz if he is smart(which I sure he is)can jab at his left shoulder and slip inside.Thats one place Wilder deff don't want to be even though he has seemed to make his uppercut a little tighter lately.

Yeah the controlling the distance will be a key factor for both men, if Ortiz can get to close or mid range I expect him to have success and vice versa If Wilder is able to maintain the distance and fight at long range, it’s going to be interesting to see how both respond to each other’s power as well.

[john l]

Yeah the controlling the distance will be a key factor for both men, if Ortiz can get to close or mid range I expect him to have success and vice versa If Wilder is able to maintain the distance and fight at long range, it’s going to be interesting to see how both respond to each other’s power as well.

My hope is I'm right about Wilders power being that good.Im talking Foreman/Shavers good athough in a different way.Not heavy handed like Foreman but more like snap power like Hearns.Really that's the kind of power he needs.He needs to be a 214pd Tommy Hearns with the jab and st8 right.He don't have Hearns left hook to body but those other two punches are starting to look more and more like the Hitman.I also don't see no quit in Wilder so Ortiz will have to finish him because I don't see him giving up or going into a shell.