Will Wilder Win You Over if He Wins BIG Saturday Night?

[GhostofDempsey]

Do you think Usyk could do anything with either of them if he moved up? Or Gassiev?

I haven't seen enough of either of them to say. Not sure Usyk could carry enough power with him at HW or take the punches from full blown HWs that big. Wilder and AJ have legit power. But he wouldn't do any worse than Stiverne or Arreola.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I haven't seen enough of either of them to say. Not sure Usyk could carry enough power with him at HW or take the punches from full blown HWs that big. Wilder and AJ have legit power. But he wouldn't do any worse than Stiverne or Arreola.

Yeah, initially, I thought he'd have no shot, but I don't know. As technically good as he is, if he kept them close and didn't get too aggressive like he has at times at cruiser, he'd have more of a chance than people think. Gassiev could compete too I think, but at 24, he need not be in any hurry. I can see them as possible champions at some point, although I'd like to see them stay at cruiser for a few years. Either way, I think both are more skilled than Wilder or AJ.

[Money Shot]

If he knocks him out then sure but I don't see him doing that. If you discount the Stiverne II blowout then we have little to go on that Wilder knocks him out. Stiverne had no right to be in that ring, even less right than the fringe men Wilder has feasted on since 2015 who have given him some trouble.

[Outworn]

Yes he would win me over if he can knock Ortiz out and i'll favor him against AJ.

[N/A]

I think most fans have their minds made up. Wilder fans will celebrate a win over 38 year old Ortiz like he just beat a prime Lennox Lewis. Meanwhile, those same fans shyt all over Loma's win over Rigo because Rigo was 37 and the smaller man.

Boxrec rankings seem to be the most popular here. So let's say Wilder is the #3 heavyweight in the world and Ortiz is #4 (in my personal rankings, Wilder is #2 and Ortiz is #3).

That is a great win no matter how you slice it.

The problem with Rigo isn't the age, the problem is him moving up TWO weight classes.

If Wilder was fighting Kovalev tomorrow and knocked him out, the issue wouldn't be Kovalev's age. The issue would be that he was moving up two weight classes to take the fight.

[GhostofDempsey]

Boxrec rankings seem to be the most popular here. So let's say Wilder is the #3 heavyweight in the world and Ortiz is #4 (in my personal rankings, Wilder is #2 and Ortiz is #3).

That is a great win no matter how you slice it.

The problem with Rigo isn't the age, the problem is him moving up TWO weight classes.

If Wilder was fighting Kovalev tomorrow and knocked him out, the issue wouldn't be Kovalev's age. The issue would be that he was moving up two weight classes to take the fight.

Rigo is far more skilled than Ortiz. A P4P top ten.

[LacedUp]

His comments lately turn me off. He seems like an idiot.

But if he lays out Ortiz, I'll respect it. And I expect it.

[uppercut510]

"a c level dude"... I see this forum is still full of ignorant people that can't comprehend boxing when they watch it. Log off and watch some tape. Educate yourself.

they wont stop lol

[Tony Trick-Pony]

His comments lately turn me off. He seems like an idiot.

But if he lays out Ortiz, I'll respect it. And I expect it.

Yeah, he's been kind of crazy with the hype of late.

Looking forward to this one, though.

Doesn't look like a showcase going in at all.

[RussB23]

Yes, if he makes a statement i might pick him to beat joshua.