Most proven chin in HW?

[Madison Boxing]

And wtf at people saying povetkin. He went down about 50 times against wlad and swear he got rocked by a jab.

[Mr Objecitivity]

And wtf at people saying povetkin. He went down about 50 times against wlad and swear he got rocked by a jab.

He was dropped only once by a left hook. That was the first time in his career he was ever dropped.

The other knockdowns were from a result of getting pushed to the ground and not from any punches landed by Wlad. That has 0 bearing on chin but on physical strength. Common sense!

He's never been stopped in his amateur or pro career combined, spanning around 200 bouts and he's 38 years old right now. Plus he's a come forward pressure fighter. Only an idiot would think he doesn't have a good chin.

If Golovkin got dropped by Kovalev once. Would that mean he has a bad chin?

Jeez. Do you people even actually watch boxing?

[juggernaut666]

I don't think there's any PED out there that would help a boxer in staying on his feet after taking a very powerful punch. Certain PED might help with an athlete's recovery speed. But I doubt there's any PED out there that can help prevent a boxer from going down after taking a powerful punch.

The reason why Mariusz Wach wasn't knocked down was not because of PED but because he probably has one of the greatest chins ever at heavyweight boxing history. There's no dispute about that! PED would only have helped him recover fast. Not prevent him from going down. But nobody ever dropped him and I don't think anybody ever would. Not even Joshua or Wilder. Just take a look at the size of the guy's chin.

The reason why I brought up Mike Tyson was because I wanted to show that the knockout percentage of heavyweight boxers isn't always relevant. Mike Tyson has an iron chin! But even he could be knocked out by someone with a 54% knockout record. And Mike Tyson's knockout losses weren't a result of him having a bad chin, but him lacking heart, stamina and willingness in the bouts that he was knocked out in.

If Wladimir Klitschko unloaded like you're claiming, he would gas out and be TKO'd by Povetkin. Wladimir Klitschko has the greatest single punch power ever at heavyweight in my opinion. But at the same time, every punch he throws uses up a lot of energy. He couldn't keep punching in the way you're claiming he could without also badly tiring out.

Tell me. How many boxers do you think could go 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko whilst using the tactic that Povetkin employed? Coming forward whilst taking punches for 12 rounds?

Lamon Brewster tried that tactic and he was stopped. Jean Marc Mormeck tried that and he was knocked out in the 4th round. Ruslan Chagaev tried that tactic and he was stopped too. The only other boxer that managed to survive whilst using that tactic was Samuel Peter in the first fight but even he was knocked out in the second fight.

Not too many boxers can fight the way Povetkin did against Wladimir Klitschko and survive 12 rounds. If anyone can, then they simply must have a world class chin. Period!

Joshua may have a slightly better chin but anybody dis*****g Povetkin's chin has to be extremely ignorant or deluded. His chin is more proven than any of the other guys from that list.

Povetkin was rocked by jabs ,he was in trouble in rnd 1 . He doesnt last with Klitchko in that instance if Klitchko decided not to hold . Povetkin would not last long with an early Klitchko assault from rnd 1 to 5 .

Klitchko had corrected his punch counts , he finished Pulev with the intent on early win.

Guys would be able to last 12 with Wlad coming forward ,like Jennings bc again Klitchko was holding .

The question isnt 12 ,its whos taking the better punch .

I have ALL the punch counts landed in the Joshua fight ...i bet Povetkin did not take many flush shots with so much clinching .

How could he ?

Sam Peter lwas stopped by all the decent punchers which was 3 . I would say he was hard to hurt bc he went late rnds . He was also hit more but NOT with the right hand Klitchko hit Joshua with ,im telling you that right now .

[Ogecca MaMa]

Vitalya Klitschko

[Mr Objecitivity]

Povetkin was rocked by jabs ,he was in trouble in rnd 1 . He doesnt last with Klitchko in that instance if Klitchko decided not to hold . Povetkin would not last long with an early Klitchko assault from rnd 1 to 5 .

Klitchko had corrected his punch counts , he finished Pulev with the intent on early win.

Guys would be able to last 12 with Wlad coming forward ,like Jennings bc again Klitchko was holding .

The question isnt 12 ,its whos taking the better punch .

I have ALL the punch counts landed in the Joshua fight ...i bet Povetkin did not take many flush shots with so much clinching .

How could he ?

Sam Peter lwas stopped by all the decent punchers which was 3 . I would say he was hard to hurt bc he went late rnds . He was also hit more but NOT with the right hand Klitchko hit Joshua with ,im telling you that right now .

Povetkin was rocked by jabs because he was walking into them. With a near 30 pound weight disadvantage, of course he was going to get rocked by those jabs if he walked into them. Wladimir Klitschko has one of the most powerful jabs in history and the guy weighs over 240 pounds. What else do you expect?

What you're claiming about Wladimir Klitschko launching an assult doesn't apply to him because that's not even his style. That's not how he fights and most likely, he can't even fight like that in the first place. Even if he tried to, he would most likely get tired after 3 rounds if he went full out assault and he would also likely leave himself open to getting countered. And considering Wlad doesn't have the best chin himself. He could very well get knocked out or stopped.

Bryant Jennings was literally running for 12 rounds on the back foot. That's not the same as what Povetkin did against Wladimir Klitschko. Povetkin came forward whilst taking punches. Only a few boxers can use that tactic and not get knocked out by Wlad.

Look at what happened to Alex Leapai when he tried to use that tactic. He also got knocked the fu7k out. The other boxers who survived 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko came to survive and fought on the back foot. Povetkin came forward and fought on the front foot.

Samuel Peter wasn't the same after he was knocked out by Wlad. His chin became worse. But before he fought Wlad, his chin was very good.

David Haye

Bryant Jennings

Sultan Ibragimov

Chris Byrd

These are the 4 boxers who managed to last 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko during his championship reign and they all fought on the back foot with the primary intention of surviving.

Only Alexander Povetkin and Mariusz Wach fought Wlad on the front foot and managed to last the distance.

Samuel Peter fought on the front foot in the first fight and survived but was knocked out in the rematch.

Wladimir Klitschko was clinching Kubrat Pulev nearly as much as he clinched Povetkin. But he was still able to KO Pulev and failed to KO Povetkin. Both Povetkin and AJ saw Wlad's punches coming better than Pulev did and Povetkin, nor AJ got hit with the type of punch that Pulev was hit by.

[Raggamuffin]

Id rather see a video of you in a room trying to fit the squares and circles like a spatial ability test .

You know what im talking about the little kids game structured to help stimulate thinking skills where you have to fit the pieces into the matching places it fits designed for 3 year olds ,the toy blocks you do .


Why not post a vid of it , so we can all see you STRUGGLE and judge that ? The 30 something Raggo in dirty ripped clothes getting flustered

You had to *edit* your own corny joke cavity creep lmfao!!!

[Madison Boxing]

Povetkin was rocked by jabs because he was walking into them. With a near 30 pound weight disadvantage, of course he was going to get rocked by those jabs if he walked into them. Wladimir Klitschko has one of the most powerful jabs in history and the guy weighs over 240 pounds. What else do you expect?

What you're claiming about Wladimir Klitschko launching an assult doesn't apply to him because that's not even his style. That's not how he fights and most likely, he can't even fight like that in the first place. Even if he tried to, he would most likely get tired after 3 rounds if he went full out assault and he would also likely leave himself open to getting countered. And considering Wlad doesn't have the best chin himself. He could very well get knocked out or stopped.

Bryant Jennings was literally running for 12 rounds on the back foot. That's not the same as what Povetkin did against Wladimir Klitschko. Povetkin came forward whilst taking punches. Only a few boxers can use that tactic and not get knocked out by Wlad.

Look at what happened to Alex Leapai when he tried to use that tactic. He also got knocked the fu7k out. The other boxers who survived 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko came to survive and fought on the back foot. Povetkin came forward and fought on the front foot.

Samuel Peter wasn't the same after he was knocked out by Wlad. His chin became worse. But before he fought Wlad, his chin was very good.

David Haye

Bryant Jennings

Sultan Ibragimov

Chris Byrd

These are the 4 boxers who managed to last 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko during his championship reign and they all fought on the back foot with the primary intention of surviving.

Only Alexander Povetkin and Mariusz Wach fought Wlad on the front foot and managed to last the distance.

Samuel Peter fought on the front foot in the first fight and survived but was knocked out in the rematch.

Wladimir Klitschko was clinching Kubrat Pulev nearly as much as he clinched Povetkin. But he was still able to KO Pulev and failed to KO Povetkin. Both Povetkin and AJ saw Wlad's punches coming better than Pulev did and Povetkin, nor AJ got hit with the type of punch that Pulev was hit by.

If you are getting rocked by jabs you don't have a great chin, simple as that

[Mindgames]

Wasn't that in the amateurs though? Let's talk about the professional level. He has never been down or dropped as a prizefighter; In the amateurs yes but not in the pros.

The Sconiers fight was a professional fight.

[Mindgames]

Show us the video of that fight so we can judge.

It was Wilders 13th fight. Ive read the press reports.They are not hard to find. Sconiers had a 17 12 record at the time. Good luck finding the footage. I know that some Wilder fans seem to think it was an amateur fight. Or that Stiverne was an undefeated fighter too. Its a strange state of affairs,but some of these fights are abit obscure.

[Mr Objecitivity]

If you are getting rocked by jabs you don't have a great chin, simple as that

No, it's not as 'simple as that' because this is the heavyweight division where anybody can be rocked. Especially when power punchers that weigh over 240 pounds are involved. It doesn't matter how good one's chin is. Especially if clinching and take downs are also involved, which was exactly the case with Wladimir Klitschko as he was often literally throwing Povetkin to the canvas. How could that therefore mean, he has a bad chin? Isn't it more of a question of him lacking physical strength instead?

Anybody who has never been stopped in around 200 amateur boxing + pro boxing + kickboxing bouts combined, must have a very good - great chin. It's as simple as that!

One knockdown suffered against one of the most powerful punchers in history doesn't change that.