Most proven chin in HW?

[juggernaut666]

But he's never been dropped by anybody other than by Wladimir Klitschko in over 100 amateur + pro bouts. That's pretty solid evidence of a good chin, isn't it not?

Not saying his chin is better than Joshua's, but anyone who fights against super heavyweights, regularly against guys who weigh over 240 pounds whilst constantly taking hits and only getting dropped once must have an above average chin at the very least. Right?

Otherwise, one wouldn't have to face a power puncher to be dropped or knocked out. they would be knocked out or dropped by an opponent who doesn't even need to have a high knockout percentage.

And Povetkin is most of the time outweighed by his opponents and gets hit whilst moving forward. Joshua doesn't because he can protect his chin by maintaining a safe distance.

Wladimir Klitschko's left hook was what hurt Povetkin the most. Wlad converts his jab into a left hook which looks like a jab but isn't.

Wlad's left hook doesn't need to look powerful to be powerful. Wlad knocked Eddie Chambers out unconscious for a few minutes with a left hook which looked like a jab or a glancing blow. The same Eddie Chambers was never knocked out by anybody else, before or after.

Wlad's power is really on another level! In my opinion, he is the most powerful puncher of all time at heavyweight. Anybody who gets hit as much as Povetkin did and lasts the distance must have a respectable chin.

P4P Povetkin has a great chin.


Joshua was hit 15 times flush in rnd 5 .against Klitchko . He was out punched four rounds after that by 15 punches . Thats 35 punches Joshua took from rnd 5 to 9 .


Klitchko held and hit Povetkin continously wobbling him. This was not the case for Joshua though punches were far in between .

Theres literally no comparison to the right hand that Klitchko hit AJ with to the skimming left hook he hit Povetkin with in rnd 1 . AFTER Joshua was tired rnd 6 which shows how well he can react to getting hit .

Alls i know is this forum is incredibly gullible !

[Mr Objecitivity]

P4P Povetkin has a great chin.


Joshua was hit 15 times flush in rnd 5 .against Klitchko . He was out punched four rounds after that by 15 punches . Thats 35 punches Joshua took from rnd 5 to 9 .


Klitchko held and hit Povetkin continously wobbling him. This was not the case for Joshua though punches were far in between .

Theres literally no comparison to the right hand that Klitchko hit AJ with to the skimming left hook he hit Povetkin with . AFTER he was tired which shows how well he can react to getting hit .

Alls i know is this forum is incredibly gullible !

Oh I agree! Povetkin has one if, if not the best chin pound for pound at heavyweight. Joshua's chin MIGHT be a little better in an absolute sense, but not by much. Joshua's extra weight and mass definitely helps him absorb punches.

Thing is, Povetkin was walking into a lot of Wladimir Klitschko punches. That's why he looked more hurt. Joshua for the most part was backing away. That helps take the sting off the punches.

And Povetkin looked wobbly more frequently against Wlad because Wlad was out-muscling him physically as he's much stronger physically. No contest! He couldn't do that to Joshua because Joshua has similar physical strength. So that's not evidence of Povetkin's chin being bad. Rather, it's an indication of him being significantly weaker than Wlad in terms of physical strength.

And Wladimir Klitschko's left hook is more powerful than his right hand in my opinion. Even in that gif, Pov walks right into that left hook of Wlad and gets back up immediately. It may have not looked that powerful. But Wladimir Klitschko has knocked opponents out senseless with similar looking left hooks before.

Neither Povetkin or Joshua took Wladimir Klitschko's ABSOLUTE 'best punches'. But both proved they possess respectable and sufficiently good enough chins by surviving 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko and being able to get up from knockdowns.

Mike Tyson was knocked out by Buster Douglas who has a 54% knockout record. That doesn't mean he has a bad chin. It just means anybody can be knocked out at heavyweight, irrespective of knockout percentages of heavyweight boxers (which can be deceiving sometimes).

The fact that Povetkin has never been stopped and only dropped by Wlad after as many bouts that he has had, proves that his chin is world class. Even if most of his opponents didn't have a very high knockout record. Even more so when taking into consideration that he is a come forward pressure fighter who takes more damage than any of the other top heavyweight today.

[juggernaut666]

Oh I agree! Povetkin has one if, if not the best chin pound for pound at heavyweight. Joshua's chin MIGHT be a little better in an absolute sense, but not by much. Joshua's extra weight and mass definitely helps him absorb punches.

Thing is, Povetkin was walking into a lot of Wladimir Klitschko punches. That's why he looked more hurt. Joshua for the most part was backing away. That helps take the sting off the punches.

And Povetkin looked wobbly more frequently against Wlad because Wlad was out-muscling him physically as he's much stronger physically. No contest! He couldn't do that to Joshua because Joshua has similar physical strength. So that's not evidence of Povetkin's chin being bad. Rather, it's an indication of him being significantly weaker than Wlad in terms of physical strength.

And Wladimir Klitschko's left hook is more powerful than his right hand in my opinion. Even in that gif, Pov walks right into that left hook of Wlad and gets back up immediately. It may have not looked that powerful. But Wladimir Klitschko has knocked opponents out senseless with similar looking left hooks before.

Neither Povetkin or Joshua took Wladimir Klitschko's ABSOLUTE 'best punches'. But both proved they possess respectable and sufficiently good enough chins by surviving 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko and being able to get up from knockdowns.

Mike Tyson was knocked out by Buster Douglas who has a 54% knockout record. That doesn't mean he has a bad chin. It just means anybody can be knocked out, despite knockout percentages of boxers.

The fact that Povetkin has never been stopped after as many bouts that he has had, proves that his chin is world class. Even if most of his opponents didn't have a very high knockout record.

Mike Tyson also took a continued punching assault for 10 rounds by someone punching down on him who had a 6 inch height advantage . This would increase power . Buster has knocked guys out with jabs .

He also took 200 punches of Lewis .

Mike fought hard punchers Bruno/Ruddock ,he has no relevance here .

Had Klitchko truly unloaded on Povetkin the fight doesnt see rnd 4 .


I can tell more than anyone punch trajectories and Klitchko bc i guarantee ive seen more footage of him than his own team ,i can say the punch he hit Joshua with is a right hand ive never seen him lay into like that bc he usually pulls back on it a bit to prepare for possible counters .

Mariusz Wach is the only fight ive seen him throw like that continously but Wach was busted for some type of PED ( no im not conversing that topic ,im dealinfg with facts ) so he would have been pasted without them .

At the end of the day Joshua has the proven chin.


One simply cant pick a guy ( Parker bc hes untested )

One cant pick Wilder unless you are related to him .

One has to take Joshua here UNLESS you lack common sense .

[Boxfan83]

Prime Chris Arreola > all

[Raggamuffin]

The Sconiers fight says otherwise. If getting dropped by Klitschko is litmus for a bad chin, getting dropped by Sconiers must be more so,as he's not a big puncher or top flight heavyweight.

Show us the video of that fight so we can judge.

[Raggamuffin]

Getting hit by Ruiz Jr, an ancient Wlad, or Molina doesn’t provide anyone with who takes the harder shot. We don’t know how hard each punch landed and they all took the shot whether they went down or not. When they fight each other then we will get some answers. Until then all you have to do is either act objective and give an opinion or just pick your favorite fighter.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Mike Tyson also took a continued punching assault for 10 rounds by someone punching down on him who had a 6 inch height advantage . This would increase power . Buster has knocked guys out with jabs .

He also took 200 punches of Lewis .

Mike fought hard punchers Bruno/Ruddock ,he has no relevance here .

Had Klitchko truly unloaded on Povetkin the fight doesnt see rnd 4 .


I can tell more than anyone punch trajectories and Klitchko bc i guaranteed ive seen more footage of him than his own team ,i can say the punch he hit Joshua with is a right hand ive never seen him lay into like that bc he usually pulls back on it a bit to prepare for possible counters .

Mariusz Wach is the only fight ive seen him throw like that continously but Wach was busted for some type of PED ( no im not conversing that topic ,im dealinfg with facts ) so he would have been pasted without them .

At the end of the day Joshua has the proven chin.


One simply cant pick a guy ( Parker bc hes untested )

One cant pick Wilder unless you are related to him .

One has to take Joshua here UNLESS you lack common sense .

I don't think there's any PED out there that would help a boxer in staying on his feet after taking a very powerful punch. Certain PED might help with an athlete's recovery speed. But I doubt there's any PED out there that can help prevent a boxer from going down after taking a powerful punch.

The reason why Mariusz Wach wasn't knocked down was not because of PED but because he probably has one of the greatest chins ever at heavyweight boxing history. There's no dispute about that! PED would only have helped him recover fast. Not prevent him from going down. But nobody ever dropped him and I don't think anybody ever would. Not even Joshua or Wilder. Just take a look at the size of the guy's chin.

The reason why I brought up Mike Tyson was because I wanted to show that the knockout percentage of heavyweight boxers isn't always relevant. Mike Tyson has an iron chin! But even he could be knocked out by someone with a 54% knockout record. And Mike Tyson's knockout losses weren't a result of him having a bad chin, but him lacking heart, stamina and willingness in the bouts that he was knocked out in.

If Wladimir Klitschko unloaded like you're claiming, he would gas out and be TKO'd by Povetkin. Wladimir Klitschko has the greatest single punch power ever at heavyweight in my opinion. But at the same time, every punch he throws uses up a lot of energy. He couldn't keep punching in the way you're claiming he could without also badly tiring out.

Tell me. How many boxers do you think could go 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko whilst using the tactic that Povetkin employed? Coming forward whilst taking punches for 12 rounds?

Lamon Brewster tried that tactic and he was stopped. Jean Marc Mormeck tried that and he was knocked out in the 4th round. Ruslan Chagaev tried that tactic and he was stopped too. The only other boxer that managed to survive whilst using that tactic was Samuel Peter in the first fight but even he was knocked out in the second fight.

Not too many boxers can fight the way Povetkin did against Wladimir Klitschko and survive 12 rounds. If anyone can, then they simply must have a world class chin. Period!

Joshua may have a slightly better chin but anybody dis*****g Povetkin's chin has to be extremely ignorant or deluded. His chin is more proven than any of the other guys from that list.

[juggernaut666]

Show us the video of that fight so we can judge.

Id rather see a video of you in a room trying to fit the squares and circles like a spatial ability test .

You know what im talking about the little kids game structured to help stimulate thinking skills where you have to fit the pieces into the matching places it fits designed for 3 year olds ,the toy blocks you do .


Why not post a vid of it , so we can all see you STRUGGLE and judge that ? The 30 something Raggo in dirty ripped clothes getting flustered

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Must be humiliating for actual Brits calling a random guy who tweets that white people are racially inferior and has a giant tattoo of africa on his arm "british". Then again they're socialists so maybe they beat off to it.

Parker probably has the best chin but his hands are so-so.

[Madison Boxing]

Probably Parker out of the 3. Wilder is packing glass, ajs isn't exactly granite.