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  • Raggamuffin
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mindgames
    It was Wilders 13th fight. Ive read the press reports.They are not hard to find. Sconiers had a 17 12 record at the time. Good luck finding the footage. I know that some Wilder fans seem to think it was an amateur fight. Or that Stiverne was an undefeated fighter too. Its a strange state of affairs,but some of these fights are abit obscure.
    I asked you to post the Sconiers video. Do you have it?

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      #42
      of those three guys joshua has fought the best puncher, wladimir klitschko. he got put down but he got back up. no shame in getting dropped by one of the best punchers of all time. wladimir was old, no doubt, but he could still ****.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin
        I asked you to post the Sconiers video. Do you have it?
        Its not on YouTube anymore. If I had it I'd have told you. I didn't know I had a job as a researcher round here.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Mindgames
          Its not on YouTube anymore. If I had it I'd have told you. I didn't know I had a job as a researcher round here.
          So you saw the fight?

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            #45
            Originally posted by Thraxox
            Wilder
            Parker
            AJ

            Three candidates of the heavyweight crown, but who has the most proven chin between them?
            Chisora has been in with some heavy hitters I'd rate his chin over any of them although he's faded

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              #46
              Originally posted by Raggamuffin
              I asked you to post the Sconiers video. Do you have it?
              What about your vid ?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
                Povetkin was rocked by jabs because he was walking into them. With a near 30 pound weight disadvantage, of course he was going to get rocked by those jabs if he walked into them. Wladimir Klitschko has one of the most powerful jabs in history and the guy weighs over 240 pounds. What else do you expect?

                What you're claiming about Wladimir Klitschko launching an assult doesn't apply to him because that's not even his style. That's not how he fights and most likely, he can't even fight like that in the first place. Even if he tried to, he would most likely get tired after 3 rounds if he went full out assault and he would also likely leave himself open to getting countered. And considering Wlad doesn't have the best chin himself. He could very well get knocked out or stopped.

                Bryant Jennings was literally running for 12 rounds on the back foot. That's not the same as what Povetkin did against Wladimir Klitschko. Povetkin came forward whilst taking punches. Only a few boxers can use that tactic and not get knocked out by Wlad.

                Look at what happened to Alex Leapai when he tried to use that tactic. He also got knocked the fu7k out. The other boxers who survived 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko came to survive and fought on the back foot. Povetkin came forward and fought on the front foot.

                Samuel Peter wasn't the same after he was knocked out by Wlad. His chin became worse. But before he fought Wlad, his chin was very good.

                David Haye

                Bryant Jennings

                Sultan Ibragimov

                Chris Byrd

                These are the 4 boxers who managed to last 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko during his championship reign and they all fought on the back foot with the primary intention of surviving.

                Only Alexander Povetkin and Mariusz Wach fought Wlad on the front foot and managed to last the distance.

                Samuel Peter fought on the front foot in the first fight and survived but was knocked out in the rematch.

                Wladimir Klitschko was clinching Kubrat Pulev nearly as much as he clinched Povetkin. But he was still able to KO Pulev and failed to KO Povetkin. Both Povetkin and AJ saw Wlad's punches coming better than Pulev did and Povetkin, nor AJ got hit with the type of punch that Pulev was hit by.
                Clearly Klitchko COULD throw more than one punch at a time without holding ......bc of THAT he did not finish Povetkin .

                I dont know what the other stuff you posted like Povetkin walking into jabs would prove .

                Pulevs chin vs Povetkin wouldn't change the fact Joshua has a better chin and Klitchko,had a A plus left hook if it landed flush ..


                Im not sure what your steering towards now ?


                Other than throwing other fighters in the mix . Klitchko, was instructed to box Jennings ,he HAD points taking away bc of excessive clinching to an incoming Jennings ????

                Ali Bashir WANTED Klitchko,to go for an early K.O but was not his head trainer and states it was bad tactic employed by Banks .

                Klitchko K.O 'd Byrd in a rematch .

                Ibragomov wasnt exactly fighting on the back foot more than he was getting WALKED down. He was engaging Klitchko alot as he was being pressed even landing effectively to Klitchko,s body but was too small to do much but make Wlad cautious bc of the southpaw style .

                Klitchko by rnd 10 was using clinching , Steward said too go knock him out in rnd 12 , i can assure you Ibragomov TRIED standing his ground (watch the last rnd ) but Klitchko,was too strong .

                Lewis said it best at that fight ......

                You need someone whos ABLE to bring the best out of Klitchko, that someone was Joshua !
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-27-2018, 05:31 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                  So you saw the fight?
                  Nope, just know there was a knockdown and several people have talked about it.

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                  • Raggamuffin
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666
                    What about your vid ?
                    No edit this time cavity creep?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      No edit this time cavity creep?
                      The only cavity you know about is the **** bc thats where you get hit on a daily basis on here !

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