Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Lomachenko Can Make More Versus Linares on HBO

[Boxing Logic]

Right now Jorge Linares is in the drivers seat, he can give Lomochenko a opportunity or fight a real draw in Mikey Garcia but it seems Lomochenko side are trying to back out ; we know Lomochenko been exposed lets not pretend that hes TBE. I'm only quoting Lomochenko, hes not happy with his pay ; Lomochenko accused Bob Arum of ripping him off. Don't get mad at me because hes fighting in Bingo halls or Theatres whilst Linares has proven to headline on multiple continents, in front of thousands in Arenas drawing HUGE numbers.

Lomochenko been begging TMT Tank Davis on twitter, that's not how you get fights made and is embarrassing to honest considering this guy is suppose to be a P4P boxer but wants to fight a kid that does not even have a belt. Lomochenko needs to start fighting in his natural weight and stop trying to make a buck off young talent ; Leonard Ellerbe wont sell out Tank to further Lomochenkos underserved hype -- this fraud is in his prime beating up midgets three divisions bellow his actual weight class.

How much was Lomochenko making when when he was 22 years old? was he even a champion cause I know TMT Tank been did that.

Calling guys out is not "begging." You Floyd fanboys have been so brainwashed about boxing, you now view bravery (calling guys out) as weakness, and ducking (like Floyd and Tank) as strength. In reality, it's the opposite, but this is how far y'all have had to stray from the truth in order to maintain y'all biases towards boxers of certain skin colors, nationalities, and or toxic cultures. And just so you know, you look a damn fool criticizing Lomachenko for being exposed when you're a DSG fan and he got exposed by a feather fisted Herrera at 140 ten times worse than Loma has ever performed. In reality Loma actually did better vs Salido in only his 2nd pro fight on an uneven playing field than Floyd did vs Castillo well into his career ON an even playing field. And Loma was also at a bigger size disadvantage.

So, spare us your double standards. They're obvious to everyone but you, I can already predict you have no answers for them except for repeating the same bull**** buzzwords that DBN and Ego brainwashed you into starting to say yourself ("exposed" etc), and they just make you look a fool. Start thinking for yourself, stop employing double standards, and you might just find a lot more posters will be interested in talking boxing with you in the future, and you might get a lot more out of this forum than you do now. There are lots of interesting discussions to be had here, and opportunities to learn from other posters as well as teach other posters on the subjects you can be fair and logical about, but you will never have any luck experiencing any of that until you can show other posters that you can be logically consistent, fair, and objective.

[rrayvez]

I get what you're saying but I still blame Bob or ESPN. Yes it's a replay but everyone knows that HBO always plays the replay the following Sat after every high profile ppv fight. They been doing it for years so we all know it's not gonna stop. Oscar said they can pick another day so IDK why they cant do that? Like the Sat before the Canelo fight. What's wrong with that Sat?

I'm assuming there's a reason why they wouldn't pick the Saturday before. Maybe it's cutting it a little too close since that'd be in April and we're less than 2 weeks away from march. I understand what you're saying with Bob and ESPN but Oscar also doesn't have to bow down to hbo. They need him now more than ever. They don't have **** other than golden boy and should Canelo win vs ggg, he'll have even more leverage. Without golden boy, hbo would damn near be on sólo boxeo level.

[N/A]

Who is the biggest name after Loma, Pac and Crawford for Top Rank?

big drop off after those three. never said tr had a strong stable. why do you think they want those three fighting as often as possible?

[N/A]

why don’t u recognize the WBO fam? Gary russell Jr once fought for it

what reason was there to accept it? three titles wasnt enough?

the wba's disgraced bribe taker leaves and starts the wbo and i'm supposed to recognize a fourth world title created out of thin air by the former leader of the wba's bribery ring?

[chimichanga2]

Two things. #1, ESPN specifically wants a big fight on May 12 to capitalize on the NBA playoff game earlier that night.

#2, Showtime has TWO shows on May 19, one headlined by Keith Thurman and one headlined by Adonis Stevenson. Showtime likely does three or four fights that night, including three world title fights. TR would rather go head to head with HBO's replay of a week old fight than go head to head with Showtime's live fights on 5/19.

It'll suck if the fight doesn't happen. Really wanna watch Loma-Linares.

[chimichanga2]

Calling guys out is not "begging." You Floyd fanboys have been so brainwashed about boxing, you now view bravery (calling guys out) as weakness, and ducking (like Floyd and Tank) as strength. In reality, it's the opposite, but this is how far y'all have had to stray from the truth in order to maintain y'all biases towards boxers of certain skin colors, nationalities, and or toxic cultures. And just so you know, you look a damn fool criticizing Lomachenko for being exposed when you're a DSG fan and he got exposed by a feather fisted Herrera at 140 ten times worse than Loma has ever performed. In reality Loma actually did better vs Salido in only his 2nd pro fight on an uneven playing field than Floyd did vs Castillo well into his career ON an even playing field. And Loma was also at a bigger size disadvantage.

So, spare us your double standards. They're obvious to everyone but you, I can already predict you have no answers for them except for repeating the same bull**** buzzwords that DBN and Ego brainwashed you into starting to say yourself ("exposed" etc), and they just make you look a fool. Start thinking for yourself, stop employing double standards, and you might just find a lot more posters will be interested in talking boxing with you in the future, and you might get a lot more out of this forum than you do now. There are lots of interesting discussions to be had here, and opportunities to learn from other posters as well as teach other posters on the subjects you can be fair and logical about, but you will never have any luck experiencing any of that until you can show other posters that you can be logically consistent, fair, and objective.

We have a lot of successful businessmen on this forum. Didn't you know that?

[BigStomps]

I'm assuming there's a reason why they wouldn't pick the Saturday before. Maybe it's cutting it a little too close since that'd be in April and we're less than 2 weeks away from march. I understand what you're saying with Bob and ESPN but Oscar also doesn't have to bow down to hbo. They need him now more than ever. They don't have **** other than golden boy and should Canelo win vs ggg, he'll have even more leverage. Without golden boy, hbo would damn near be on sólo boxeo level.

I don't see how Oscar is bow dowing to HBO. it's not good for Oscar, Boxing in general, the fans or either HBO and ESPN to have multiple fights on different networks on the same day. And Oscar can't really compete against himself by doing the Loma Vs linares fight on the same day as the replay..
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this issue also

[chimichanga2]

Just make the fight on a Friday for God's sake.

[rrayvez]

I don't see how Oscar is bow dowing to HBO. it's not good for Oscar, Boxing in general, the fans or either HBO and ESPN to have multiple fights on different networks on the same day. And Oscar can't really compete against himself by doing the Loma Vs linares fight on the same day as the replay..
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this issue also

Maybe you're right but from the original interview with golden boys president, he didn't seem to mind too much about the 12th from a golden boy perspective. He implied that hbo didn't want that to happen so he didn't want to go against their wishes. Unless I misinterpreted.

[BigStomps]

Maybe you're right but from the original interview with golden boys president, he didn't seem to mind too much about the 12th from a golden boy perspective. He implied that hbo didn't want that to happen so he didn't want to go against their wishes. Unless I misinterpreted.

That's also a possibility....
But on another note. You said earlier if my boy Canelo takes a beatdown against Triple g,...
I don't see that happening.
I know you taking Triple g and I'm taking Canelo..
You care to make a friendly bet?