Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Lomachenko Can Make More Versus Linares on HBO

[Outworn]

ESPN has four year exclusivity on the TR stable. Arum would have to seek special permission from ESPN and think about how that conversation would go.

ESPN: We need a huge fight on 5/12 after the NBA playoffs.

Arum: Instead of giving you the huge fight you want, can I please give HBO a huge fight that night instead? Even though we just signed an exclusive four year deal guaranteeing that TR's stars only fight on ESPN, ESPN PPV and ESPN's upcoming subscription service?

ESPN: Are you high?

Who is the biggest name after Loma, Pac and Crawford for Top Rank?

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Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Lomachenko Can Make More Versus Linares on HBO

By Keith Idec - Oscar De La Hoya has drawn his promotional line in the sand. On the opposite side stands Bob Arum, his former promoter and current competitor. Who else would it be based on their longstanding love-hate relationship? Arum and De La Hoya seemingly agree on most things pertaining to putting together an intriguing Vasyl Lomachenko-Jorge Linares lightweight title fight...
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[Mammoth]

It's not happening on HBO. ESPN would have to find a date they find that works for them for the fight to happen.

[Boxing Logic]

Does Golden Boy not realize, Lomachenko is going to counterprogram them on May 12th with or without Linares? They really care that instead of Loma counterprogramming them with 1.5 or 2 million views on ESPN against say Beltran, that Loma would get slightly more counterprogramming them with Linares? I mean the difference is neglible, first of all, and secondly, shouldn't that concern be counterbalanced by the fact that in the first scenario, they would be counterprogrammed for millions of viewers who wont even see a GBP boxer or logo if Linares doesn't fight Loma, but if they let Loma-Linares happen, then it won't even matter whether fans watch ESPN or HBO, because either way they will see a GBP fighter and logo?

For example if I were Golden Boy, I would rather 1 million watch the Canelo-GGG replay, and 2 million watch Linares, for a total of 3 million viewers watching GBP boxers on May 12th, than have 1.1 million watch Canelo-GGG, 1.5 million watch Loma-Beltran, for a total of 1.1 million watching GBP fighters on May 12th.

Would they rather have 3 million fans watch GBP boxers on May 12th, or 1.1 million?

Or, even if Linares would fight on HBO instead, he would still only average like 750k viewers on that show on HBO, rather than 1.5 million or more on ESPN, so it's still a net loss of viewers seeing GBP boxers from Golden Boy's perspective. Plus, they would lose a fight slot on an HBO date to have to put Linares in a separate fight. This way they save that slot out of the limited slots they get from HBO each year, and get a free one on ESPN from Arum instead.

None of this makes any sense to me. If they can't work this out, it will be a black mark on all three of Eric Gomez, Peter Nelson, and Bob Arum's careers.

[1hourRun]

Team GoldenBoy, Oscar De La Hoya flexing with da guap. Lomochenko needs the money too! This is why Lomochenko was begging TMT Tank Davis for a payday, but Tank was like nah, I'm on PPV dawg ; you can keep yo ass on ESPN.

[rrayvez]

At this point I don't care who's at fault. The fans get screwed over as usual while multi millionaires argue to see who will become even more rich. F the Canelo vs ggg replay and whatever lame fight golden boy throws on hbo on the 12th and F Loma vs whatever stiff arum finds for him on ESPN.

[filup79]

Since when is Linares the draw and A side to Loma. Arum doesn't need to do GB and Linares any favors. Ironically GB didn't give a damn about Linares fighting in the UK while the fight wasn't promoted by them. The last 2 Linares fight promoted by GB at the Forum were duds and Linares was paid 250k. But somehow GB thinks Linares is on par with Loma and Mikey when it comes to drawing power and purses. Loma and Mikey are getting paid around 1 mil. While GB is paying Linares around 250k per fight. Looks like GB is screwing Linares out of good pay checks by thinking Oscar and HBO call the shots

[Boxing Logic]

loma seems like another airhead like pacquiao so I cant picture him confronting arum about what he wants. most likely arum comes out and brings up ESPN. killing the fight and then making loma/beltran, a fight nobody cares about. not to say beltran is a bum though.

Loma has had 11 fights, and so far Arum has gotten him Salido, GRJ, Walters, and Rigo all in that time. And agreed to terms with Linares lead promoter. Arum put him in with a 10 pounds bigger (IN THE RING!) Salido, and then undefeated GRJ, in his 2nd and 3rd pro fights. What makes you think Arum is afraid to match this guy? If anything I question his willingness to match Crawford vs tough guys, because when he was asked about making Crawford-Pacquiao closer to Pacquiao's prime, Arum said his matchmakers still thought Pacquiao was too much for Crawford at that point, and even Crawford came out refusing to fight Pacquiao at 147, despite Crawford being way bigger than Pacquiao. Almost as if he was on orders from Arum. And then ever since little Gamboa hurt Crawford, Arum has only matched Crawford against one powder puff boxer after another. Postol. Diaz. Indongo. All of these have worse KO%'s than Paulie Malignaggi. Okay I'm exaggerating. Or am I? I would have to check, that's how bad it is. I would actually have to check. They all have like 40% or 50% KO%. Extremely low. They have kept Crawford far away from punchers. The only ones they let him fight are if they also happen to be the slowest least skilled guys in boxing, like John Molina, because they know no one that slow will be able to hit Crawford, so their power becomes irrelevant. But ever since Gamboa, they have have not matched Crawford even once against someone with the ability to land punches, and with punches that have knockout power.

But no one ever talks about that. Instead they question whether Arum will put Lomachenko in tough, when he's already done that, with all sorts of styles too, many times. This sounds like HBO and Golden Boy being ridiculous. They didn't cancel the March 3 card even though Showtime is counterprogramming them. And that's a live card. Canelo-GGG is just a replay. This is the age of DVR anyway, so who cares?

[filup79]

Team GoldenBoy, Oscar De La Hoya flexing with da guap. Lomochenko needs the money too! This is why Lomochenko was begging TMT Tank Davis for a payday, but Tank was like nah, I'm on PPV dawg ; you can keep yo ass on ESPN.

Linares and GB need the pay day. Loma is making close to a million per fight while GB could barely pay Linares 250k for his fights. Oscar pretty much screwed Linares of two good pay checks by trying to call the shots against Mikey and Loma, when Linares isn't a draw. Linares has to go to the UK to get a better pay check than GB pays him.

[MrShakeAndBake]

Team GoldenBoy, Oscar De La Hoya flexing with da guap. Lomochenko needs the money too! This is why Lomochenko was begging TMT Tank Davis for a payday, but Tank was like nah, I'm on PPV dawg ; you can keep yo ass on ESPN.

umm why you lying ? Loma made Tank and team TMT his b1tches when he called out TankGina. you missed all those excuses from floyd and tank how he is so young and does not need to fight Loma?!!

Floyd ducked GGG
Tank ducked Loma

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