Originally posted by juggernaut666
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Why hasn't Deontay Wilder faced the following boxers in his pro career so far?
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In all seriousness most likely because his shows doesn't generate enough money to pay them.
Arreola and Washington are getting between USD150-250k and they are american. Someone like Pulev would bring less revenue to the table than those guys, so the economics just don't make any sense.
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Originally posted by BodiesInFlight View PostHe tried to fight Povetkin once. Thats enough for some guys around here.
The opponents he's chosen for his voluntary defenses have a combined record of 157-9.
He's making a voluntary defense against the most avoided heavyweight in the world, in the highest risk/lowest reward fight possible, for no reason other than personal pride.
He wanted AJ, AJ didn't want him until later in the year. AJ is fighting Parker. The biggest available challenge is King Kong. What's the point on continuing to hate on a guy that's clearly seeking out the biggest challenges?
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostPulev has been pursuing an IBF title shot. Wilder isn't the IBF champion.
Jennings was already deep in negotiations and/or signed to fight Klitschko before Wilder even won his title. Jennings then lost to Klitschko and stopped fighting. When exactly was this fight supposed to take place? Already your list is starting to look pretty ******.
Klitschko was already deep in negotiations and/or signed to fight Jennings before Wilder even won his title. Then Klitschko owed WBA/WBO mandatory Tyson Fury a shot. Before that fight, Wilder publicly begged to fight Klitschko after he won. Problem is, Klitschko lost. There was no logical time for this fight to take place.
He retired three years before Wilder got his title shot. This is just so ****** I can't read the rest of your list. I'm sorry.
So it's ****** to question one of the heavyweight champions (title holders) today, that happens to claim he is greater / better than other past heavyweight champions, that claims he can beat other past heavyweight champions who are more proven, that claims most other heavyweights today are ducking him in Deontay Wilder as to why he hasn't fought more opponents with better records in 39 bouts?
What's ****** is making excuses for the following Deontay Wilder's actions:
1) Claiming he can beat other more proven past heavyweight champions
2) Claiming most of the others are ducking him.
3) Not fighting more heavyweights with better records whilst doing the above things.
Which is exactly what I've seen you do consistently. The only one being '******' is you.
This is Deontay Wilder's opponent's sum win:loss ratio in 39 bouts (the combined win:loss ratio of all of Wilder's opponents up to date): Total: 687 wins: 406 losses.
This is Alexander Povetkin's opponent's sum win:loss ratio in 33 bouts (the combined win:loss ratio of all of Povetkin's opponents up to date in fewer bouts than Wilder) as an example: 913 wins: 255 losses.
Facts aren't '******'! Deontay Wilder isn't somehow the sole exception of a boxer that has no opponents available with top records. Whilst top boxers like Anthony Joshua and Alexander Povetkin are able to face such opponents. If they can, then so can Deontay Wilder and there exists no excuses for Wilder.
Wilder could've fought Vitali Klitschko after his 25th bout in 2012 or 2013.
Wilder could've fought Wladimir Klitschko before Wlad faced Bryant Jennings.
Wilder was able to fight Bryant Jenning's left over in Artur Szpila but not Bryant Jenning himself, right?
Wilder was able to fight David Haye's leftover in Audley Harrison but not David Haye himself, right?
The fact that he is fighting other boxer's leftovers but not the winning boxer, is a testament to him choosing to fight losers and not winners / more proven boxers. Which alone takes away any right for him to claim others are ducking him or that he can defeat other past great heavyweight champions like Mike Tyson.
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Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View PostI see your point but Wilder was being brought up slowly. He was protected as a prospect no question about that. There’s nothing wrong with that. Other fighters have been brought along in the past the same way. GRJr, Canelo, and Kell Brook just to name a few. But Wilders ready for the stage now.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostIn all seriousness most likely because his shows doesn't generate enough money to pay them.
Arreola and Washington are getting between USD150-250k and they are american. Someone like Pulev would bring less revenue to the table than those guys, so the economics just don't make any sense.
They had money for purse bids and its a fact Haymon has money , these guys just stayed in Alabama to keep Wilders opposition at a certain level until now .
Then you have the head cases using Povetkin who won purse bids to force them out of that state as evidence that Wilder was looking to expand his profile .
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View PostThe logical step is too leave Alabama then .
They had money for purse bids and its a fact Haymon has money , these guys just stayed in Alabama to keep Wilders opposition at a certain level until now .
Then you have the head cases using Povetkin who won purse bids to force them out of that state as evidence that Wilder was looking to expand his profile .
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Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View PostSo it's ****** to question one of the heavyweight champions (title holders) today, that happens to claim he is greater / better than other past heavyweight champions, that claims he can beat other past heavyweight champions who are more proven, that claims most other heavyweights today are ducking him in Deontay Wilder as to why he hasn't fought more opponents with better records in 39 bouts?
This is Deontay Wilder's opponent's sum win:loss ratio in 39 bouts (the combined win:loss ratio of all of Wilder's opponents up to date): Total: 687 wins: 406 losses.
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Originally posted by mlac View PostThe fact deontay wilder is having his first real fight after 10 years in the sport and 40 opponents says it all really.
guy is a fraud and we all know it.
Where was he making all the noise to fight klitschko before fury schooled him? he was quiet as a mouse.
AJ opponents get 20 million + and Suddenly Wilder is mouthing off like theres no tomorrow. He and his team are desperate for the cash out payday.
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