Why hasn't Deontay Wilder faced the following boxers in his pro career so far?

[Mr Objecitivity]

It takes 2 sides to make a fight though. And why do you keep bringing up Vitali when the man hasn’t fought in like 6 years? He’s not relevant at all in the heavyweight division. And what he’s supposed to come out of retirement and fight the unknown at the time Wilder? Get serious dude. And since Wlad David Haye has done nothing but cherrypick opponents for the last few years. Remember the guy that went down from the arm punch lol?

Yes, it does take two. Which is what Wladimir Klitschko has been doing for a decade, fighting the BEST available opponents during the era he dominated in. David Haye came to heavyweight and in just a few bouts, challenged Wladimir Klitschko whilst Deontay Wilder barely even mentioned Wladimir Klitschko's name at the time. My point is, it is Wilder's job to prove himself against Wladimir Klitschko and not vice versa. Just like it was David Haye's job to prove himself against Wladimir Klitschko (which he did but obviously failed, but still tried). Thus, more of the onus is upon Deontay Wilder to make bouts happen against the likes of Wladimir Klitschko, David Haye and Vitali Klitschko.

Vitali Klitschko was still active after Deontay Wilder had 25 bouts. That was my point! Ergo, Wilder could've fought Vitali then. Just like how Anthony Joshua fought Wladimir Klitschko in his 19th bout.

What you said makes absolutely no sense. I thought I was supposed to be the crazy Wilder fan but you’re sitting here defending the Wilder win over Washington lol. Dude go outside and play.

Should I not give Deontay Wilder MORE credit for his victory over Gerald Washington than his victories over other opponents such as Siarrhei Liakovich, Jason Gavern, Audley Harrison, Malik Scott, Nicolai Firtha and etc?

[Mr Objecitivity]

So what is a quality win as YOU stated Washington was?

Dont you know QUALITY means top if you are suggesting it as important win ? smh

If Washington is not a top win who is ? Jesus christ you fans are the worst . lol

You're right there is no point in conversing with you as 99% of Wilder fans on here , just remember you put the ........

C in CRAZY !

Another crucial point about Deontay Wilder's career opponents is that Wilder has been avoiding DURABLE opponents that are difficult to KO for a long time. Thus, his KO percentage is further flattered by him facing boxers with poor punch resistance and durability. The few times he faced previously UN-KO'ed opponents who were somewhat durable in Johan Duhapas and Gerald Washington, Wilder failed to score clean knockouts over them.

Compare that to Anthony Joshua or even Alexander Povetkin, whom consistently compete against durable opponents that have proven to have high punch resistance.

The Johan Duhapas fight is a sample of what would happen if Wilder ever steps up in competition to face more durable opponents or better defensive opponents such as Dereck Chisora, Carlos Takam, Alexander Povetkin, Dominic Brezeale, Dillian Whyte, Mariusz Wach and etc.

So not only has Deontay Wilder avoided power punchers to hide / protect his suspect punch resistance / chin. He has also avoided durable opponents to protect his high knockout percentage.

[_Rexy_]

So, Champ Vitali was going to just accept a fight with an unknown fighter?

[juggernaut666]

Another crucial point about Deontay Wilder's career opponents is that Wilder has been avoiding DURABLE opponents that are difficult to KO for a long time. Thus, his KO percentage is further flattered by him facing boxers with poor punch resistance and durability. The few times he faced previously UN-KO'ed opponents who were somewhat durable in Johan Duhapas and Gerald Washington, Wilder failed to score clean knockouts over them.

Compare that to Anthony Joshua or even Alexander Povetkin, whom consistently compete against durable opponents that have proven to have high punch resistance.

The Johan Duhapas fight is a sample of what would happen if Wilder ever steps up in competition to face more durable opponents or better defensive opponents such as Dereck Chisora, Carlos Takam, Alexander Povetkin, Dominic Brezeale, Dillian Whyte, Mariusz Wach and etc.

So not only has Deontay Wilder avoided power punchers to hide / protect his suspect punch resistance / chin. He has also avoided durable opponents to protect his high knockout percentage.

I think those questions could be answered against Ortiz ,a fight im predicting goes 12 .

Wilder didnt step up competition until his 28th fight ,his PURE K.O wins are from years of nobodies but Szpilka and Molina later ,but that was actually a TKO .

Either way this Pan african whatever guy must be drinking , he complains about no credit to Washington win was giving , he somehow then kills his own argument by bashing Breazeale who is the TOP HW at his gym NOT Washington . Then further contradicted himself by stating Washington is not a relevant win but than has no answer who is AFTER he bigs the guy up by addressing he was undefeated ?

He even talks about fat guys but evidently forgot a guy called Stiverne .Did you catch that one ?

If all this is not a sign of heavy drinking i dont know what is ?

[Outwest Exp 355]

"Washington was an undefeated fighter with a great record and nobody even counts that as a quality win. And he is definitely on the level if not better than fat body Breazele. "

Did your doppelganger post this ?????

You're literally too ****** to keep up !

Common Wilder fan trait !

Where did I say it was a quality win for Wilder? I was just using that guys argument against him. I never said Washington was a quality win because IMO Washington is just a guy. And I’m not gonna gas him up because I’m a Wilder fan. Did I explain it clearly enough for you? Next time mind your ****ing business when no one is talking to you.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Yes, it does take two. Which is what Wladimir Klitschko has been doing for a decade, fighting the BEST available opponents during the era he dominated in. David Haye came to heavyweight and in just a few bouts, challenged Wladimir Klitschko whilst Deontay Wilder barely even mentioned Wladimir Klitschko's name at the time. My point is, it is Wilder's job to prove himself against Wladimir Klitschko and not vice versa. Just like it was David Haye's job to prove himself against Wladimir Klitschko (which he did but obviously failed, but still tried). Thus, more of the onus is upon Deontay Wilder to make bouts happen against the likes of Wladimir Klitschko, David Haye and Vitali Klitschko.

Vitali Klitschko was still active after Deontay Wilder had 25 bouts. That was my point! Ergo, Wilder could've fought Vitali then. Just like how Anthony Joshua fought Wladimir Klitschko in his 19th bout.



Should I not give Deontay Wilder MORE credit for his victory over Gerald Washington than his victories over other opponents such as Siarrhei Liakovich, Jason Gavern, Audley Harrison, Malik Scott, Nicolai Firtha and etc?

I see your point but Wilder was being brought up slowly. He was protected as a prospect no question about that. There’s nothing wrong with that. Other fighters have been brought along in the past the same way. GRJr, Canelo, and Kell Brook just to name a few. But Wilders ready for the stage now.

[Illmatic94]

heavyweight division is a wasteland. all those guys on that list are nothing special with exception of wlad. if wilder beats ortiz all this talk should die down because not even AJ wanted to fight King Kong. and why are ppl making jokes out of Povetkin failing the test and somehow blaming Wilder for that? beating Ortiz puts all this criticism to bed. period. but but but he old doe.. FOH.

Wilder is facing the boogeyman and right after he plans to jump in the ring and challenge the golden goose AJ in front of the world. what more can the guy do for your approval?

[BoxingTech718]

Lol somebody forward this to Wilders Instagram and Twitter.

Just keep spamming his social media until he responds

In no PARTICULAR order:

1) Kubrat Pulev

2) Bryant Jennings

3) Wladimir Klitschko

4) Vitali Klitschko

5) Mariusz Wach

6) Jarrell Miller

7) Carlos Takam

8) Dillian Whyte

9) Dominic Brezeale

10) Andy Ruiz Jr

11) Tyson Fury

12) Hughie Fury

13) David Haye

14) Dereck Chisora



These are ALL the BEST heavyweight boxers available that were in the top 10 at some point during their careers. They are also the best available heavyweight boxers based on them having the best win/loss ratios out of their career records. Their resume is also the best with all of their opponent's win/loss ratio being the best.

So the excuse that no quality heavyweight exists for Deontay Wilder except 3 or 4 heavyweights to fight against is only that, an excuse, a myth and is totally false!

Even if we exclude the following 3 'drug cheats' who failed drug tests:

1) Alexander Povetkin

2) Luis Ortiz

3) Andrzej Wawrzyk


There are AT LEAST 14 other top quality opponents available for Deontay Wilder to face. What excuse does Wilder have of not facing them? That's right, NOTHING!

If the ABSOLUTE BEST POSSIBLE OPPONENTS like Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury are unavailable. Then he could face the next best available / possible opponents such as the boxers out of the list I mentioned. Instead, Wilder chooses to fight lower ranked opponents with inferior win/loss ratios out of their career records and with inferior resumes.


The only other decent opponents he has faced are:

1) Bermane Stiverne

2) Johan Duhapas

3) Chris Arreola

4) Gerald Washington


Out of the number of bouts he has had, that's a horrible resume / level of opposition he has faced for one of the TOP heavyweights in the world and for a heavyweight champion.

Deontay Wilder has been PROVEN to be a relatively UNPROVEN FRAUD!

[JRB123]

I see your point but Wilder was being brought up slowly. He was protected as a prospect no question about that. There’s nothing wrong with that. Other fighters have been brought along in the past the same way. GRJr, Canelo, and Kell Brook just to name a few. But Wilders ready for the stage now.

The difference with Wilder and the other people you brought as examples is that they have faced guys that are highly ranked at one point.

Wilder's only key win is over Stiverne and even the quality of that win is questionable.

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1) Kubrat Pulev

Pulev has been pursuing an IBF title shot. Wilder isn't the IBF champion.

2) Bryant Jennings

Jennings was already deep in negotiations and/or signed to fight Klitschko before Wilder even won his title. Jennings then lost to Klitschko and stopped fighting. When exactly was this fight supposed to take place? Already your list is starting to look pretty ******.

3) Wladimir Klitschko

Klitschko was already deep in negotiations and/or signed to fight Jennings before Wilder even won his title. Then Klitschko owed WBA/WBO mandatory Tyson Fury a shot. Before that fight, Wilder publicly begged to fight Klitschko after he won. Problem is, Klitschko lost. There was no logical time for this fight to take place.

4) Vitali Klitschko

He retired three years before Wilder got his title shot. This is just so ****** I can't read the rest of your list. I'm sorry.