Why hasn't Deontay Wilder faced the following boxers in his pro career so far?

[BodiesInFlight]

He tried to fight Povetkin once. Thats enough for some guys around here.

[Outwest Exp 355]

You're committing a 'RED HERRING' logical fallacy. The popularity of a boxer is totally independent of the quality of a boxer. A boxer can be totally unknown for all I care, but that doesn't mean that boxer doesn't have quality. Likewise, a boxer can be as popular as James Bond (Connor McGregor), that doesn't mean that boxer has much quality.

And how much quality a boxer has, does not depend on their popularity, but their record. Their win / loss ratio out of their career record. And all of their opponent's sum win:loss ratio out of their record. And their own KO percentage.

Jarrell Miller may have not been that popular. But nor were Malik Scott, Nicolai Firtha and Siarrhei Liakovich. However, Jarrell Miller, unlike those other 3 unpopular boxers I mentioned, is of a higher quality with a much better record. Thus, Deontay Wilder still chose to face relatively unpopular boxers who were of a lower quality whilst avoided a bout against a similarly unpopular opponent who is of a higher quality.

What makes Brezeale a quality win for Anthony Joshua? His heavyweight record! He was undefeated, with a KO percentage over 80%. The fact that he looked bad against Anthony Joshua is a testament to how good Joshua is, not how bad Brezeale himself is. Since Brezeale never looked as bad in any other bout against any other opponent.

And the reason why the onus is on Deontay Wilder to make fights against the likes of David Haye and Wladimir Klitschko is because Wilder is the one who is FAR less proven whilst those other boxers are far more proven.

Wladimir Klitschko has already defeated multiple opponents at the caliber of Deontay Wilder and has cemented himself as an all time great with one of the greatest heavyweight records of all time. On the other hand, Deontay Wilder has NEVER EVER defeated any boxer at the caliber of Wladimir Klitschko. Thus, Wladimir Klitschko doesn't have to prove anything at this point whilst Deontay Wilder does.

Likewise, the same applies to David Haye. He became the undisputed cruiser weight champion of the world before moving up to heavyweight and winning a title there. He only ever failed to a prime Wladimir Klitschko.

The one who needs to prove themselves is the one who has the onus to make fights against top quality opponents happen. Not the one who is ALREADY proven like Wladimir Klitschko.

And calling out =/= making a fight happen.

Washington was an undefeated fighter with a great record and nobody even counts that as a quality win. And he is definitely on the level if not better than fat body Breazele. The onus should be on those popular fighters more than Wilder is because in boxing popular boxers get the opportunities. Mostly because they can generate the most money and make the best offers to their opponents. There’s a reason why nobody turns down a Canelo fight. David Haye has an entire country that will support him and, as so many Wilder haters say, no one in the US even knows who he is. The guys who are selling tickets should be held to a higher standard because they bring in the money to make shyt happen.

[juggernaut666]

Washington was an undefeated fighter with a great record and nobody even counts that as a quality win. And he is definitely on the level if not better than fat body Breazele. The onus should be on those popular fighters more than Wilder is because in boxing popular boxers get the opportunities. Mostly because they can generate the most money and make the best offers to their opponents. There’s a reason why nobody turns down a Canelo fight. David Haye has an entire country that will support him and, as so many Wilder haters say, no one in the US even knows who he is. The guys who are selling tickets should be held to a higher standard because they bring in the money to make shyt happen.

Washington doesn't carry power to make him more effective than Breazeale ,hes actually his stable mate and said he was tougher . Washington has no amateur background , Breazeale had a ranking of 1 in the U.S . He also stopped Mansour ,who deserved the W against Washington .

Izu is also more skilled than Parker and hits harder ,to use him to show Breazeale being poor doesn't work either . A win over Izu isnt going to be easy for anyone he fights , even though there are knuckle heads like RJJ GOAT/ dumbium who think hes already exposed . lol

The hard truth on here for many is maybe Joshua was a LITTLE better than they thought ? Just a little bc i know MOST cant recognise a great fighter until they retire such is the dumbing down of the typical boxing fan . lol

[Outwest Exp 355]

Washington doesn't carry power to make him more effective than Breazeale ,hes actually his stable mate and said he was tougher . Washington has no amateur background , Breazeale had a ranking of 1 in the U.S . He also stopped Mansour ,who deserved the W against Washington .

Izu is also more skilled than Parker and hits harder ,to use him to show Breazeale being poor doesn't work either . A win over Izu isnt going to be easy for anyone he fights , even though there are knuckle heads like RJJ GOAT/ dumbium who think hes already exposed . lol

The hard truth on here for many is maybe Joshua was a LITTLE better than they thought ? Just a little bc i know MOST cant recognise a great fighter until they retire such is the dumbing down of the typical boxing fan . lol

I know a heavy bag when I see one. And nothing about Breazele screams top contender. The man can’t even get in shape for a fight. And when Breazele was linked to a possible matchup against Wilder everyone and their mother shyt on the possibility of that fight. And rightfully so. Now you don’t get to come here and change the narrative because Breazele is not a potential Wilder opponent anymore. You see it with Ortiz now and you will see it with AJ. If you want to see a fighter discredited just call him a potential Wilder opponent.

[_Rexy_]

Vitali and Haye wouldn't have made sense at the time as Wilder had just basically turned pro.

If he had fought Breazele, everyone would have been saying he picks crap opponents, so damned if you do, damned if you don't.

As for his list of "decent fighters" I'd add Molina, Harrison, and Malik Scott too...but there are quite a bit of no names on there, nobody debates that. It's typical when a fighter has a short amateur career, their handlers give them a load of fights to gain experience which is why you see he had 8 fights in his first 12 months as a pro. Similar to Mike Tyson who was fighting every two weeks as a new pro.

[_Rexy_]

I know a heavy bag when I see one. And nothing about Breazele screams top contender. The man can’t even get in shape for a fight. And when Breazele was linked to a possible matchup against Wilder everyone and their mother shyt on the possibility of that fight. And rightfully so. Now you don’t get to come here and change the narrative because Breazele is not a potential Wilder opponent anymore. You see it with Ortiz now and you will see it with AJ. If you want to see a fighter discredited just call him a potential Wilder opponent.

And if you want to overrate someone, call them a Joshua opponent. Wlad looked awful and old against Fury, but Joshua KO's him 17 months later and AJ is GOAT heavyweight.

[-Kev-]

Most of those make no sense, like Vitali and Wach. There's a few others that wouldn't matter/help his resume and his critics wouldn't care about. Tyson Fury went on a coke binge and got fat, that's another one that makes no sense, that match was never on the table.

Right now Ortiz and Joshua should be priority.

[juggernaut666]

I know a heavy bag when I see one. And nothing about Breazele screams top contender. The man can’t even get in shape for a fight. And when Breazele was linked to a possible matchup against Wilder everyone and their mother shyt on the possibility of that fight. And rightfully so. Now you don’t get to come here and change the narrative because Breazele is not a potential Wilder opponent anymore. You see it with Ortiz now and you will see it with AJ. If you want to see a fighter discredited just call him a potential Wilder opponent.

You just basically admitted Wilder has not fought a top contender yet bc i DO know my boxing and he would be Wilders best win . I just showed you evidence of Breazeale being better than Washington ,now you move goal posts after crediting Washington as a great and relevant win .

As a matter of fact i had Breazeale as a top ten since 2016 , and now hes in line for another title shot . Maybe bc i knew what i was talking about while he wasnt even on anyones radar ?

You even mock Breazeale looks ? What about short pudgy Stiverne and his performances ? Really you Wilder fans put the C in CRAZY most of the time on here ! lol

Breazeale is going to be his mandatory should he still have his title , just stop it !

[RussB23]

He was fighting all time greats like Shitka and gerard washington

[Holler]

And if you want to overrate someone, call them a Joshua opponent. Wlad looked awful and old against Fury, but Joshua KO's him 17 months later and AJ is GOAT heavyweight.

How did you think Wlad looked in the Joshua fight? I thought he looked sharper than he had done against Fury. Maybe some of that was the difference in his opponents style, but he didn't look like a shot fighter that night in my view anyway.