Why hasn't Deontay Wilder faced the following boxers in his pro career so far?

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You just basically admitted Wilder has not fought a top contender yet bc i DO know my boxing and he would be Wilders best win . I just showed you evidence of Breazeale being better than Washington ,now you move goal posts after crediting Washington as a great and relevant win .

As a matter of fact i had Breazeale as a top ten since 2016 , and now hes in line for another title shot . Maybe bc i knew what i was talking about while he wasnt even on anyones radar ?

You even mock Breazeale looks ? What about short pudgy Stiverne and his performances ? Really you Wilder fans put the C in CRAZY most of the time on here ! lol

Breazeale is going to be his mandatory should he still have his title , just stop it !

I never said anything about Washington being a top win. When you interrupt other people’s conversations things tend to get twisted up. The other guy was saying Breazele was undefeated when he fought AJ and that legitimized the win. So I said Washington was also undefeated and nobody counts that as a top win for Wilder.

As far as Breazele goes you didn’t prove anything. That Izu fight was a horrible performance although he did win it. But that was only because Izu gassed out. Breazele was getting the absolute shyt beat out of him. He looked like a slab of meat in Rocky lol. He couldn’t protect himself. And last year everyone called the Breazele fight a Wilder cherrypick. If you can’t even admit that then there’s no point of continuing this conversation. You talk about Wilder fans lol you Wilder haters will contradict yourselves no matter how ****** you sound.

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How did you think Wlad looked in the Joshua fight? I thought he looked sharper than he had done against Fury. Maybe some of that was the difference in his opponents style, but he didn't look like a shot fighter that night in my view anyway.

Oh, I thought he looked much better than he did against Fury, but that could have been the difference in styles, training better, or just facing a lesser opponent. Against Fury he looked confused and old. Against Joshua he looked like a different fighter. Especially after getting knocked down in the fifth, I dont remember seeing much of Wlad just swinging for the fences like he did after he got knocked down.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Washington was an undefeated fighter with a great record and nobody even counts that as a quality win. And he is definitely on the level if not better than fat body Breazele. The onus should be on those popular fighters more than Wilder is because in boxing popular boxers get the opportunities. Mostly because they can generate the most money and make the best offers to their opponents. There’s a reason why nobody turns down a Canelo fight. David Haye has an entire country that will support him and, as so many Wilder haters say, no one in the US even knows who he is. The guys who are selling tickets should be held to a higher standard because they bring in the money to make shyt happen.

I've already acknowledged Gerald Washington as a top quality opponent of Deontay Wilder and gave him the props / credit he deserved for his victory over Washington. My point is, Dominic Brezeale is EVEN BETTER due to possessing a better record. This is because he has ONLY 1 loss, as opposed to 2 which Washington has. Plus, Washington also has a far lower knockout percentage than Brezeale. All of this, despite both having relatively similar number of bouts.

Plus, my point also was that why hasn't Wilder been facing MORE opponents like Washington or Brezeale? Rather than facing only a few quality opponents?

Furthermore, it is the job of the unproven boxer to prove themselves by making fights happen against top quality opponents. It is not the job of the ALREADY proven boxers to make fight happen against other opponents when they've already proved themselves for a decade (Wladimir Klitschko). Thus, it is Wilder's job to make fights happen against the likes of Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko and David Haye and not the other way around.

To this day, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't ducked a single mandatory. He could've chose to become the mandatory to Wlad or Vitali but refused.

No excuses!

[Mr Objecitivity]

Vitali and Haye wouldn't have made sense at the time as Wilder had just basically turned pro.

If he had fought Breazele, everyone would have been saying he picks crap opponents, so damned if you do, damned if you don't.

As for his list of "decent fighters" I'd add Molina, Harrison, and Malik Scott too...but there are quite a bit of no names on there, nobody debates that. It's typical when a fighter has a short amateur career, their handlers give them a load of fights to gain experience which is why you see he had 8 fights in his first 12 months as a pro. Similar to Mike Tyson who was fighting every two weeks as a new pro.

Deontay Wilder would OBJECTIVELY be given more credit, had he beaten the opponents I listed, rather than the likes of Jason Gavern, Nicolai Firtha, Siarrhei Liakovich and etc.

Murat Gassiev fought Denis Lebedev in his 25th bout. Anthony Joshua fought Wladimir Klitschko in his 20th bout. What excuses does Deontay Wilder have of not facing Vitali Klitschko or David Haye after his 25th bout when both were still active?

[Mr Objecitivity]

Most of those make no sense, like Vitali and Wach. There's a few others that wouldn't matter/help his resume and his critics wouldn't care about. Tyson Fury went on a coke binge and got fat, that's another one that makes no sense, that match was never on the table.

Right now Ortiz and Joshua should be priority.

Those bouts make more sense than fighting the likes of Liakovich, Malik Scott, Artur Szpilka, Audley Harrison, Nicolai Firtha and Jason Gavern. Since those latter boxers are inferior to the boxers I mentioned in my original post (OP) based on them possessing inferior heavyweight records. That's a FACT!

How exactly do these bouts make no sense?

[juggernaut666]

Deontay Wilder would OBJECTIVELY be given more credit, had he beaten the opponents I listed, rather than the likes of Jason Gavern, Nicolai Firtha, Siarrhei Liakovich and etc.

Murat Gassiev fought Denis Lebedev in his 25th bout. Anthony Joshua fought Wladimir Klitschko in his 20th bout. What excuses does Deontay Wilder have of not facing Vitali Klitschko or David Haye after his 25th bout when both were still active?

Joshua fought Klitchko in his 19th bout .

Which has important impact on his resume bc fighters dont fight near that type of opposition until well near at least 25 fights under them ,the time it usually takes a quality fighter to step up who knows hes elite level .....


Thats about taking that fight 2 years sooner than what would be norm and Joshua did it with about 55 rnds of experience ,ppl just dont know what their talking about and give passes to inferior fighters all the time at HW , boxing fans half the time are as dumb as can be unfortunately .......

they really are !

[juggernaut666]

I never said anything about Washington being a top win. When you interrupt other people’s conversations things tend to get twisted up. The other guy was saying Breazele was undefeated when he fought AJ and that legitimized the win. So I said Washington was also undefeated and nobody counts that as a top win for Wilder.

As far as Breazele goes you didn’t prove anything. That Izu fight was a horrible performance although he did win it. But that was only because Izu gassed out. Breazele was getting the absolute shyt beat out of him. He looked like a slab of meat in Rocky lol. He couldn’t protect himself. And last year everyone called the Breazele fight a Wilder cherrypick. If you can’t even admit that then there’s no point of continuing this conversation. You talk about Wilder fans lol you Wilder haters will contradict yourselves no matter how ****** you sound.

So what is a quality win as YOU stated Washington was?

Dont you know QUALITY means top if you are suggesting it as important win ? smh

If Washington is not a top win who is ? Jesus christ you fans are the worst . lol

You're right there is no point in conversing with you as 99% of Wilder fans on here , just remember you put the ........

C in CRAZY !

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I've already acknowledged Gerald Washington as a top quality opponent of Deontay Wilder and gave him the props / credit he deserved for his victory over Washington. My point is, Dominic Brezeale is EVEN BETTER due to possessing a better record. This is because he has ONLY 1 loss, as opposed to 2 which Washington has. Plus, Washington also has a far lower knockout percentage than Brezeale. All of this, despite both having relatively similar number of bouts.

Plus, my point also was that why hasn't Wilder been facing MORE opponents like Washington or Brezeale? Rather than facing only a few quality opponents?

Furthermore, it is the job of the unproven boxer to prove themselves by making fights happen against top quality opponents. It is not the job of the ALREADY proven boxers to make fight happen against other opponents when they've already proved themselves for a decade (Wladimir Klitschko). Thus, it is Wilder's job to make fights happen against the likes of Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko and David Haye and not the other way around.

To this day, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't ducked a single mandatory. He could've chose to become the mandatory to Wlad or Vitali but refused.

No excuses!

It takes 2 sides to make a fight though. And why do you keep bringing up Vitali when the man hasn’t fought in like 6 years? He’s not relevant at all in the heavyweight division. And what he’s supposed to come out of retirement and fight the unknown at the time Wilder? Get serious dude. And since Wlad David Haye has done nothing but cherrypick opponents for the last few years. Remember the guy that went down from the arm punch lol?

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So what is a quality win as YOU stated Washington was?

Dont you know QUALITY means top if you are suggesting it as important win ? smh

If Washington is not a top win who is ? Jesus christ you fans are the worst . lol

You're right thereis no point in conversing with you as 99% of Wilder fans on here , just remember you put the ........

C in CRAZY !

What you said makes absolutely no sense. I thought I was supposed to be the crazy Wilder fan but you’re sitting here defending the Wilder win over Washington lol. Dude go outside and play.

[juggernaut666]

What you said makes absolutely no sense. I thought I was supposed to be the crazy Wilder fan but you’re sitting here defending the Wilder win over Washington lol. Dude go outside and play.

"Washington was an undefeated fighter with a great record and nobody even counts that as a quality win. And he is definitely on the level if not better than fat body Breazele. "

Did your doppelganger post this ?????

You're literally too ****** to keep up !

Common Wilder fan trait !