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Why hasn't Deontay Wilder faced the following boxers in his pro career so far?

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  • #71
    Originally posted by mlac View Post
    the fact deontay wilder is having his first real fight after 10 years in the sport and 40 opponents says it all really.
    guy is a fraud and we all know it.

    Where was he making all the noise to fight klitschko before fury schooled him? he was quiet as a mouse.
    AJ opponents get 20 million + and Suddenly Wilder is mouthing off like theres no tomorrow. He and his team are desperate for the cash out payday.
    Lol, AJ opponents do not get 20 million +, not even close. I don't even think AJ gets that much. I hope he does, and he for sure will sometime if he keeps winning, but very few fighters have ever gotten 20+ million.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      You brought up TBRB. Wilder's best TBRB win is #3. Joshua's best TBRB win is #6. I don't think Parker has a TBRB win at all.

      So why are you criticizing the guy with the best win? Nothing better to do with your life?
      Why are you on here PRETENDING to know the sport ? Nothing better to do with yours ?

      YOU go by the Transnational rankings which shows Wilder hasnt DEFENDED against a top 10 guy .


      Dont you realise how ****** that makes you look ?


      Parker has only defended his title twice ,and at least Fury was undefeatted and Razvan was last minute replacement to save the card in his 1st defense bc FURY pulled out.

      Guess who hes fighting next in defense 3 ?
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-14-2018, 04:40 AM.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
        In no PARTICULAR order:

        1) Kubrat Pulev

        2) Bryant Jennings

        3) Wladimir Klitschko

        4) Vitali Klitschko

        5) Mariusz Wach

        6) Jarrell Miller

        7) Carlos Takam

        8) Dillian Whyte

        9) Dominic Brezeale

        10) Andy Ruiz Jr

        11) Tyson Fury

        12) Hughie Fury

        13) David Haye

        14) Dereck Chisora



        These are ALL the BEST heavyweight boxers available that were in the top 10 at some point during their careers. They are also the best available heavyweight boxers based on them having the best win/loss ratios out of their career records. Their resume is also the best with all of their opponent's win/loss ratio being the best.

        So the excuse that no quality heavyweight exists for Deontay Wilder except 3 or 4 heavyweights to fight against is only that, an excuse, a myth and is totally false!

        Even if we exclude the following 3 'drug cheats' who failed drug tests:

        1) Alexander Povetkin

        2) Luis Ortiz

        3) Andrzej Wawrzyk


        There are AT LEAST 14 other top quality opponents available for Deontay Wilder to face. What excuse does Wilder have of not facing them? That's right, NOTHING!

        If the ABSOLUTE BEST POSSIBLE OPPONENTS like Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury are unavailable. Then he could face the next best available / possible opponents such as the boxers out of the list I mentioned. Instead, Wilder chooses to fight lower ranked opponents with inferior win/loss ratios out of their career records and with inferior resumes.


        The only other decent opponents he has faced are:

        1) Bermane Stiverne

        2) Johan Duhapas

        3) Chris Arreola

        4) Gerald Washington


        Out of the number of bouts he has had, that's a horrible resume / level of opposition he has faced for one of the TOP heavyweights in the world and for a heavyweight champion.

        Deontay Wilder has been PROVEN to be a relatively UNPROVEN FRAUD!


        I agree that he is unproven and his resume sucks but some of those guys there was no real chance or demand for him to fight. When was he supposed to fight vitali? vitali has been retired for years and at the tale end he was out constantly with injuries. Ditto for Haye, out constantly with injuries. Wilder wasnt big back then. Fury has been out for a while now too and is like 400 lbs, that isnt happening anytime soon and that fight hasnt been a possibility for like 2 years now.

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        • #74
          Wilder, Ortiz, AJ, Fury are the only heavies that have beaten competition in the top 5. Stiverne, Jennings, Wlad x2.

          Look at Pedvetkin's resume, the last time he beat a top 5 HW was about 2011 lmao


          People saying Wilder's resume is weak don't know what they're talking about, a guy like Washington is arguably better than Pulev who barely sc****d past Chisora.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
            Wilder, Ortiz, AJ, Fury are the only heavies that have beaten competition in the top 5. Stiverne, Jennings, Wlad x2.

            Look at Pedvetkin's resume, the last time he beat a top 5 HW was about 2011 lmao


            People saying Wilder's resume is weak don't know what they're talking about, a guy like Washington is arguably better than Pulev who barely sc****d past Chisora.
            Washington is his best win ,at least title defense .

            He also took the fight with less than a month to prepare while Wilder was in training . He was also only 18 fights under him ,hardly an advantage against a seasoned pro who can punch and Washington obviously is not a natural boxer which is easily seen ,he started at 30 years old .

            Putting him over Pulev isnt realistic , Pulev himself would have a different fight fight with Wilder bc it would give him more breathing space to work off his jab unlike grinder Chisora ..

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            • #76
              Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
              Why are you on here PRETENDING to know the sport ? Nothing better to do with yours ?
              I get paid to post here.


              YOU go by the Transnational rankings which shows Wilder hasnt DEFENDED against a top 10 guy .
              But if we're going by TBRB, nobody has defend anything against anyone because neither Joshua nor Wilder are TBRB champion. They're both contenders. One of them has beaten a top 5 fighter and the other hasn't So why are you criticizing the fighter with the better win? Doesn't make any sense.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by el*** View Post
                I agree that he is unproven and his resume sucks but some of those guys there was no real chance or demand for him to fight. When was he supposed to fight vitali? vitali has been retired for years and at the tale end he was out constantly with injuries. Ditto for Haye, out constantly with injuries. Wilder wasnt big back then. Fury has been out for a while now too and is like 400 lbs, that isnt happening anytime soon and that fight hasnt been a possibility for like 2 years now.
                Haven't you been paying attention? Apparently Vitali and Haye were supposed to just accept the challenge of an unknown fighter at the time. Because Champs always accept unknown challenges, and the fights always get sanctioned.

                But some people are just going to hate for the sake of hating. The HW division is crap right now...better than it was 5-10 years ago, but still the weakest of the main divisions. Probably why OP is grasping at straws and asking why Wilder hasn't fought guys like Hughie ****ing Fury.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                  Washington is his best win ,at least title defense .

                  He also took the fight with less than a month to prepare while Wilder was in training . He was also only 18 fights under him ,hardly an advantage against a seasoned pro who can punch and Washington obviously is not a natural boxer which is easily seen ,he started at 30 years old .

                  Putting him over Pulev isnt realistic , Pulev himself would have a different fight fight with Wilder bc it would give him more breathing space to work off his jab unlike grinder Chisora ..
                  Wilder was fresh off bicep/hand surgery and hadn't fought in a year, 1 month prep is a decent amount of time if you're already training, if he'd taken the fight on a day's notice like Duhapaus did Pedvetkin then I'd give him a pass.

                  Washington grew up watching boxing, he boxed a bit as a kid, he started at 26 and didn't turn pro until 30.

                  Wilder on the other hand wasn't familiar with the sport at all, had 0 boxing knowledge, started in late '06, had his first fights in '07, then turned pro in '08. He also fought at HW, 200lbs, not Super HW 200+. Wilder used to be a walking stick, it took him years to fill out his body.

                  Pulev, there is no excuse for struggling with Chisora, I thought he also looked pretty crap against Thompson as well. Doesn't have the power to bother a guy like Wilder.
                  Last edited by Cutthroat; 02-14-2018, 05:45 AM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    I get paid to post here.




                    But if we're going by TBRB, nobody has defend anything against anyone because neither Joshua nor Wilder are TBRB champion. They're both contenders. One of them has beaten a top 5 fighter and the other hasn't So why are you criticizing the fighter with the better win? Doesn't make any sense.
                    If you get paid to post here they should find a far better representative bc anyone placing Stiverne over Klitchko does not watch boxing .

                    WHATEVER AND WHOEVER is paying you to post exactly what ? lol


                    It doesnt matter who the champions are of what that site ranks ,YOU go by that site NOT me !

                    Im not criticising ,im stating FACTS on a site YOU go by . And now totally ignore title defences and now the goal post is Stivernes 2015 ranking ?

                    Again proving Wilder fans are pure ****** on here !

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                      If you get paid to post here they should find a far better representative bc anyone placing Stiverne over Klitchko does not watch boxing .
                      You chose to compare TBRB. I'm sorry the comparison you asked for sunk your own argument. Better luck next time.

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