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Why hasn't Deontay Wilder faced the following boxers in his pro career so far?

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  • Originally posted by Tyistall View Post
    That's the dumbest thing I've read on here hahahah. AJ has 3 belts
    No he doesn't. He has 2. The IBO is not a recognized title.


    and he went after Klitschko, did you forget that? The same Klitschko that used to drop Wilder in sparring
    No, that wasn't the same Klitschko. AJ fought the Klitschko that was embarrassed by Tyson Fury and then inactive for a year and a half.


    and the same Klitschko that Wilder never said a word about fighting.
    You're lying.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkat.../#7b53dcd1fea3


    Wilder never said a word about fighting Parker either, who AJ is fighting next.
    You're lying.

    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2..._to_fight.html

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...titles-in-2017

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    • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      No, Wilder went after the most prestigious championship, not the least.

      Klitschko was justifiably ranked ahead of Stiverne in independent world ratings, but that doesn't mean the WBO title was more prestigious than the WBC. Anybody can go through the history of the WBC heavyweight belt and the WBO heavyweight belt and it's easy to see which the public holds in higher regard.
      lol stfu you clown.

      Wilder went after the easiest belt, he didn't go after the champ. And once he had the belt him and his team wanted nothing to do with Klitschko.

      https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-n...-finkel--86714

      You know who rushed to Klitschko?

      You guessed it. Joshua.

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      • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        Probably 80% of them down to money.

        But Wilder never wanted Klitschko. That much we do know.
        Those fights would've involved as much money, if not more than the money that was involved when Wilder fought all these bums and journeymen such as Nicolai Firtha, Siarrhei Liakovich, Audley Harrison and Malik Scott.

        So that's not an acceptable excuse!

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        • Originally posted by Rockybigblower View Post
          Vitali - retired
          Wlad - busy cashing out with AJ then retiring
          Tyson Fury - suspended
          Hughie Fury - busy with Parker and a not even in the argument anyways
          Takam - busy with both Parker and AJ
          Brezeale - mommas boy busy with AJ
          Andy Ruiz - busy with Parker
          Whyte - busy with AJ and Browne
          David Haye - broken toe, shoulder, achilles etc
          Jarrell Miller - fair enough
          Wlad was available long before his fight against AJ,

          Tyson Fury was available before his suspension.

          Brezeale and Dillian Whyte are both Wilder's mandatory opponents. The fact that they were busy ONCE, doesn't mean they weren't also available during other periods. Why isn't Wilder fighting his mandatory opponents?

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          • Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
            Klitschkos retired

            Jennings lost to Ortiz who Wilder beat

            Hughie turned down a fight

            Tyson has been in no condition to fight

            Chisora a nobody and Coming off a embarrassing loss

            Haye is coming off a loss and would rather make bigger $ with lower risk with a Bellew rematch

            Ruiz disappeared for a year and a half and hasn’t beaten anyone of substance

            If he fought Breazeale, White , Takam everyone will say it’s AJ leftovers


            That leaves Miller , Whyte , Wach , Takam
            Deontay Wilder turned pro in 2008. Wladimir Klitschko retired in 2017 and Vitali Klitschko retired at the end of 2012. So Deontay Wilder was still boxing before the Klitschkos retired. So why didn't he face them before they retired?

            Tyson Fury has been in condition to fight before 2015. Why didn't Wilder face Fury before 2016?

            Dereck Chisora has a iron chin who has the ability expose Deontay Wilder's punching power as either legitimate against durable boxers or not. So why didn't he face a durable opponents like Dereck Chisora to really show how 'great' his punching power really is?

            Deontay Wilder has faced other opponents who were also coming off losses during that period of time to inferior opponents. Why couldn't he face David Haye, even the version coming off his loss to Wladimir Klitschko?

            If he fought Breazeale, White , Takam everyone will say it’s AJ leftovers
            Not me! I would instead say that Wilder is challenging himself against common opponents of Joshua to prove how good he really is.

            That leaves Miller , Whyte , Wach , Takam
            All have one thing in common = THEY ARE ALL DURABLE and not in their retirement ages (like Luis Ortiz was).

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            • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              He had 47 professional fights. It's seems some want to pick and choose who to admonish yet turn a blind eye to a fighter who did the exact same thing yet to a greater extant.

              And this isn't going off topic. One directly correlates to the other.
              Yes, this is going off topic because who Vitali Klitschko didn't fight has no relevance to the opponents that Wilder could've fought but didn't.

              You're making a lot of assumptions about me. I'm not turning a 'blind eye' on Vitali Klitschko. I don't even take Vitali Klitschko too seriously as a boxer. His accomplishments outside of boxing are far greater to me than his accomplishments inside boxing. And I think he'll probably say the same thing too.

              Boxing would probably rank as one of the least significant activities in Vitali Klitschko's career / life out of the other things he has partaken in. So it really doesn't matter to me that he didn't do as much as he could've done in boxing.

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              • Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
                Yes, this is going off topic because who Vitali Klitschko didn't fight has no relevance to the opponents that Wilder could've fought but didn't.

                You're making a lot of assumptions about me. I'm not turning a 'blind eye' on Vitali Klitschko. I don't even take Vitali Klitschko too seriously as a boxer. His accomplishments outside of boxing are far greater to me than his accomplishments inside boxing. And I think he'll probably say the same thing too.

                Boxing would probably rank as one of the least significant activities in Vitali Klitschko's career / life out of the other things he has partaken in. So it really doesn't matter to me that he didn't do as much as he could've done in boxing.
                The point is there is a a precedent for his course of action set long before him and that even goes as far to, for some, to claim their man an ATG. Wilder was also not involved in combat sports until he was much older than the average person who gets to the level he's at. I'm not saying he shouldn't step it up (and it seems he is trying to), I'm saying you can't blame one guy without looking back on others. That just seems like hating. In today's diminished heavyweight landscape Wilder probably has a good 7 or 8 years left in the sport. I'm sure during that time his resume with have thickened up with better fighters. And let's not forget the drug cheats he lost out on fighting. His resume would have looked far better had (especially Povetkin) not screwed up fights for him.

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                • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                  The point is there is a a precedent for his course of action set long before him and that even goes as far to, for some, to claim their man an ATG. Wilder was also not involved in combat sports until he was much older than the average person who gets to the level he's at. I'm not saying he shouldn't step it up (and it seems he is trying to), I'm saying you can't blame one guy without looking back on others. That just seems like hating. In today's diminished heavyweight landscape Wilder probably has a good 7 or 8 years left in the sport. I'm sure during that time his resume with have thickened up with better fighters. And let's not forget the drug cheats he lost out on fighting. His resume would have looked far better had (especially Povetkin) not screwed up fights for him.
                  How is this HW era diminished ?

                  Most of the guys arent even in their primes yet that are in top 10 some dont even have 25 fights ? lol

                  You also have 3 undefeatted champions and a handful of olympic stand outs on their way coupled with under the radar guys who are going to be extremely dangerous .

                  Wilder around 8 years more ? Not gonna happen ,his first 2 L's he eventually takes and hes probably out .....say what you like about either Klitchko but they were TRUE fighters and stuck around fighting the top guys that were available. Vitali became injury prone after the Lewis fight , a fight he TRIED to get twice .

                  All you guys moaned how old Lewis was but wont do it for Ortiz the guy close to 50 ? lol

                  Wilder is at his peak and his mentality will be one who wont want to risk multiple losses thats why Ortiz in all likely hood will be his best win .
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 03-15-2018, 10:15 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    The point is there is a a precedent for his course of action set long before him and that even goes as far to, for some, to claim their man an ATG. Wilder was also not involved in combat sports until he was much older than the average person who gets to the level he's at. I'm not saying he shouldn't step it up (and it seems he is trying to), I'm saying you can't blame one guy without looking back on others. That just seems like hating. In today's diminished heavyweight landscape Wilder probably has a good 7 or 8 years left in the sport. I'm sure during that time his resume with have thickened up with better fighters. And let's not forget the drug cheats he lost out on fighting. His resume would have looked far better had (especially Povetkin) not screwed up fights for him.
                    The reason why I'm being critical of Deontay Wilder is because:

                    1) He is a heavyweight title holder.

                    2) He has called himself the greatest heavyweight of all time whilst totally disrespecting past heavyweight champions.


                    Vitali Klitschko never claimed he was the greatest heavyweight of all time and never disrespected past heavyweight champions like Wilder has done. And unlike Deontay Wilder, Vitali Klitschko has faced every mandatory challenger whilst Wilder has avoided many.

                    But yes, I would agree that Vitali Klitschko was never the REAL champion during the Klitschko era. That was his younger brother Wladimir Klitschko. Which is why Vitali Klitschko only held one title and faced fewer top level opposition compared to Wladimir Klitschko.

                    If Deontay Wilder wants to face weak competition, then that's fine and I wouldn't criticize him. However, only when he starts claiming he is a 'great' heavyweight, whilst disrespecting past great heavyweight champions and whilst he avoids his mandatory challengers as a title holder is when I'm going to be critical of his level of opposition.

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                    • Biggest fake in boxing that’s why

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