calzaghe would beat prime jones

[robertzimmerman]

Calzaghe beat up "old" Hopkins...but people forget that "old" Hopkins was a p4p fighter and one of the best in the sport. Bernard beat up Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight and then beat up on Pavlik after he lost to joe.

Why are fans always dismissive of Calzaghe's wins?

When did Joe beat up Hopkins?

[daggum]

Calzaghe beat up "old" Hopkins...but people forget that "old" Hopkins was a p4p fighter and one of the best in the sport. Bernard beat up Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight and then beat up on Pavlik after he lost to joe.

Why are fans always dismissive of Calzaghe's wins?

calzaghe didn't land more than a couple clean punches the entire fight thats why. it was pathetic. that old man boxed circles around him, dropped him, nearly dropped him a second time(judges somehow gave that round to calzaghe still) and led him into punches over and over. calzaghe "beat" hopkins cause he tried really hard but failed. that was politics and nothing more. the first 8 rounds especially were so cringeworthy watching calzaghe flail and miss over and over. he didnt clearly win any of those rounds

[A-Wolf]

When did Joe beat up Hopkins?

Never. These nationalist Calzaghe fans try to falsify his greatness and achievements every chance they get. The only guy who got knocked down and rocked in the Hopkins vs. Calzaghe fight was Joe.

[A-Wolf]

calzaghe didn't land more than a couple clean punches the entire fight thats why. it was pathetic. that old man boxed circles around him, dropped him, nearly dropped him a second time(judges somehow gave that round to calzaghe still) and led him into punches over and over. calzaghe "beat" hopkins cause he tried really hard but failed.

The facts. ^^^^^

[A-Wolf]

Calzaghe beat up "old" Hopkins...but people forget that "old" Hopkins was a p4p fighter and one of the best in the sport. Bernard beat up Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight and then beat up on Pavlik after he lost to joe.

Why are fans always dismissive of Calzaghe's wins?

"Wins?"

You understand Hopkins vs. Calzaghe is the most debated outcome in modern boxing history?? I had Hopkins winning as did Iole (Yahoo), Rafael (ESPN), the Associated Press and many, many others.

[robertzimmerman]

Never. These nationalist Calzaghe fans try to falsify his greatness and achievements every chance they get. The only guy who got knocked down and rocked in the Hopkins vs. Calzaghe fight was Joe.

Yes.

It was quantity vs quality.

[daggum]

Yes.

It was quantity vs quality.

it was missing vs landing. dont give calzaghe undeserved credit

[robertzimmerman]

it was missing vs landing. dont give calzaghe undeserved credit

Correct.

Joe concentrated more on volume than on accuracy.

I debated a guy a few weeks ago and he tried to tell me that Joe easily beat Bernard, and he tried to use the punch stats from Compubox as a form of evidence. Obviously I laughed at him.

[Prince Madison]

You are absolutely clueless.

Green K sent?

Ha!


"I don't think he could have been beaten"

Yeah, that's why he scraped by Robin Reid and he was dropped by Byron Mitchell and Kabary Salem.


"The Yanks didn't want to know"

Maybe, just maybe, it had something to do with the fact that Joe was relatively unknown outside of Europe, where he defended a lightly regarded WBO title which nobody respected.

and roy jones got rocked by some bum and got knocked the **** out by tarver soon after he got caught on roids. Pretty much every great fighter has had a fight where theyve been dissapointing in, joe had about 1 or 2 off nights in 46 fights.

[A-Wolf]

and roy jones got rocked by some bum and got knocked the **** out by tarver soon after he got caught on roids. Pretty much every great fighter has had a fight where theyve been dissapointing in, joe had about 1 or 2 off nights in 46 fights.

Which nights were those lol?