calzaghe would beat prime jones

[Madison Boxing]

Believe it or not, what most people know as Joe Calzaghe at the top was actually Joe Calzaghe past his best. Maybe at 75% for Jeff Lacy, 70% for Mikkel Kessler and maybe 50% for Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. A prime Joe Calzaghe was an absolute beast. I don't think he'd have ever lost to anybody. At that time British boxing wasn't very glamorous and the Yanks didn't want to know. Nor did Glen Johnson. There wasn't big money to be made in the UK and Calzaghe would have derailed any hyped up Yank's momentum.

superb comment. green k sent

[daggum]

superb comment. green k sent

where is the superb part? there wasnt much money in the uk. ok then calzaghe should have come to the usa to fight oh wait he couldnt cause he was scared of flying(his own promoter said he saw him flying so that was a lie) calzaghe pulled out of the fight twice against glen johnson. you can't recognize a troll post. he was obviously joking and pretending the opposite happened

[Mr Objecitivity]

Bwaahaha Ward gave you PTSD and now you have resorted to bringing him up in unrelated threads.

Better change your username.

#wardruinslives

Lol. You seem / appear to be taking things too seriously. I was only trolling / joking around and don't really care bout Ward or Calzaghe if that's what you thought.

[Street]

Not in a million years. Prime Jones can only be defeated by Prime Robinson

[A-Wolf]

Yep, completely agree. Horrible style match up for Jones, as it showed when they fought.

lol kid, how old are you?

That's a funny joke.

It is indeed.

[DuckAdonis]

Calzaghe beat up "old" Hopkins...but people forget that "old" Hopkins was a p4p fighter and one of the best in the sport. Bernard beat up Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight and then beat up on Pavlik after he lost to joe.

Why are fans always dismissive of Calzaghe's wins?

[robertzimmerman]

I watched Joe Calzaghe's career unfold from the beginning. Not like yourself who bases opinions on forum posts and online blogs. When Joe retired there was a feeling he could have achieved more. And that's because he was that good. A Unified champion, a Lineal champion in two divisions, and people feel he could have acheived even more. Haters can hate, but Joe Calzaghe is an ATG.

You don't know anything about me.

I'm English and I watched Joe's career unfold in it's entirety. He was a great fighter. And I was a fan of his, until I got tired of him trying to fool the public by playing his 'I'm a victim of circumstances' card.

Yes, of course he could have achieved more. But he didn't, because he was content to defend his lightly regarded WBO belt for 10 years. He made 21 defences of that title, and only 7 of those were mandatories. Go and look who he fought. He wasn't overly ambitious.

You saying that you don't think he could have been beaten just highlights your lack of knowledge.

Yes, of course the big names U.S. fighters weren't interested in him back in the late 90's-early 00's. And why would they have been? He was relatively unknown outside of Europe.

[robertzimmerman]

youre a well renowned calzaghe hater. joe was lightening quick himself, its funny how age is allowed to affect roy but not joe. he'd slowed down by the time he fought roy hopkins and kessler yet he still whooped on them lol

Is that all you could muster as a reply?

I'm a hater?

Is that it?

You simply don't possess the required amount of knowledge to debate me on this subject.

You cannot refute my points.

No, Joe hadn't slowed down by the time he fought Roy. He was renowned for his fitness and his punch output. His style was completely different to Roy's.

If you look back at Joe's fights against Sheika and Woodhall etc, it's the same fighter who fought the likes of Kessler. He had the exact same attributes.

If you looked back and Roy's fights against the likes of Hill and Griffin, you'd see straight away that they were completely different to the versions who fought Tito and Joe. They looked like completely different fighters. Like cheap imitations.

[A-Wolf]

Believe it or not, what most people know as Joe Calzaghe at the top was actually Joe Calzaghe past his best. Maybe at 75% for Jeff Lacy, 70% for Mikkel Kessler and maybe 50% for Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. A prime Joe Calzaghe was an absolute beast. I don't think he'd have ever lost to anybody. At that time British boxing wasn't very glamorous and the Yanks didn't want to know. Nor did Glen Johnson. There wasn't big money to be made in the UK and Calzaghe would have derailed any hyped up Yank's momentum.

Yeah.

That "beast" LOST to Robin Reid.

Joe couldn't get out of the way of Reid's right hand to save his life.

"Beast" my ass..

[robertzimmerman]

superb comment. green k sent

You are absolutely clueless.

Green K sent?

Ha!


"I don't think he could have been beaten"

Yeah, that's why he sc****d by Robin Reid and he was dropped by Byron Mitchell and Kabary Salem.


"The Yanks didn't want to know"

Maybe, just maybe, it had something to do with the fact that Joe was relatively unknown outside of Europe, where he defended a lightly regarded WBO title which nobody respected.