calzaghe would beat prime jones

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Some of the idiotic comments here are absolutely laughable😭😭😭.
I’m a big Joe fan, but he wouldn’t win a round. Calzaghe’s main asset was speed, he wouldn’t be able to utilise that whatsoever against a prime Roy who had WAAAY faster hands and feet than Joe. Calzaghe was always vulnerable to the counter right hand if his opponent had the speed and reflexes to slip and counter his right jab. Roy had this in abundance that shot would’ve been there for him all night.
Even the shot version of Roy timed Calzaghe with that straight right that dropped him. Add to this Roy is naturally bigger, stronger and more athletic man, Joe literally has no chance.
Roy ices Calzaghe in 6 if he feels like taking him out early or absolutely toys with him and stops him late.

[W1LL]

Believe it or not, what most people know as Joe Calzaghe at the top was actually Joe Calzaghe past his best. Maybe at 75% for Jeff Lacy, 70% for Mikkel Kessler and maybe 50% for Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. A prime Joe Calzaghe was an absolute beast. I don't think he'd have ever lost to anybody. At that time British boxing wasn't very glamorous and the Yanks didn't want to know. Nor did Glen Johnson. There wasn't big money to be made in the UK and Calzaghe would have derailed any hyped up Yank's momentum.

[robertzimmerman]

hear me out, rjj always liked to fight at a slow pace (30-40 punches per round), when he was faced with raw aggression he would do the following: throw a quick counter and move or lay on the ropes and grin.

calzaghe had very good powers of recovery, sure he would go down every now and then but he has never looked massively shaky and rjj never had huge 1 punch knock out power so i dont think he can take him out with 1 punch.

calzaghe overwhelms opponents with speed, clever pivots, head movement and volume of punches. how will rjj out box him?

rjj when faced with a large quantity of quick punches coming straight down the pipe would back up to the ropes and try sneaking in quick counters.

rjj was a great fighter and one of my all time fav but styles make fights so i see calzaghe beating rjj on the scorecards.

First off, Joe would never have fought Roy when he was anywhere near his prime.

Second, if Joe had unloaded volume on a peak version of Roy, Roy would not have shelled up. He would have fired back and they would have ended up in a shootout. Joe would never have had the confidence or the ******ity to have done such a thing. The only guy who'd have employed those tactics was Nigel Benn.

As great as Joe was, he was always relatively easy to hit. Especially with right hands. He was dropped by Kabary Salem, and by Byron Mitchell, when he let emotion get in the way, leaving himself exposed.

Roy was faster. He was more powerful. He had more variation. He was harder to hit, and far more accurate. Joe concentrated more on volume than accuracy.

Joe did have good recuperative powers, but he's never faced anyone with the power of Roy. Forget when they met and Roy was shot. Roy had one punch knockout power. You saw what he did to Griffin and Hill.

To me, it's an absolute fantasy to believe that Joe would have unloaded on him. But if he had have done, he'd have got stopped. If they really had fought each other earlier, then realistically, Joe would have been ultra cautious. Why do I think that? Because I watched his entire career. I know how he carried himself. I know what he said in countless interviews. I know who he fought and who he didn't. I know who he wouldn't have fought.

With a different mentality, Joe could possibly have beaten Roy. But the version that we all saw definitely wouldn't have done. The guy made 21 defences of a lightly regarded WBO belt for a good reason.

[robertzimmerman]

Yep, completely agree. Horrible style match up for Jones, as it showed when they fought.

We've established many times that you possess no knowledge of Roy's career.


Try looking from Joe's perspective:

He'd have been facing a guy who was faster.

Who was more powerful.

Who had more accuracy.

Who was harder to hit.


It would have been a horrible match up for Joe.


Forget their 2008 fight.

It was a completely different version of Roy than the one we're looking at here.

Please tell me why you're so fixated with their 2008 fight, when Joe himself said that Roy was shot at that point and he had been since 2004??

[#1Assassin]

Antonio tarver knocked out roy Jones for crying out loud.

that wasnt jones in his prime. prime tarver would probably beat calzaghe himself for that matter.

[robertzimmerman]

Believe it or not, what most people know as Joe Calzaghe at the top was actually Joe Calzaghe past his best. Maybe at 75% for Jeff Lacy, 70% for Mikkel Kessler and maybe 50% for Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. A prime Joe Calzaghe was an absolute beast. I don't think he'd have ever lost to anybody. At that time British boxing wasn't very glamorous and the Yanks didn't want to know. Nor did Glen Johnson. There wasn't big money to be made in the UK and Calzaghe would have derailed any hyped up Yank's momentum.

Joe wasn't a beast in his prime.

He had the exact same attributes that he always had.

Prime versions of Joe struggled with Reid and was dropped by Salem and Mitchell.

You don't think he'd have lost to anybody? Then I suggest that you go and watch some old time fight footage.

Glen Johnson would have fought Joe. It was Joe who was injured.

Outside of Europe, Joe was relatively unknown. And that's because he was content to a defend a lightly regarded belt in Britain for 10 years.

[W1LL]

Joe wasn't a beast in his prime.

I watched Joe Calzaghe's career unfold from the beginning. Not like yourself who bases opinions on forum posts and online blogs. When Joe retired there was a feeling he could have achieved more. And that's because he was that good. A Unified champion, a Lineal champion in two divisions, and people feel he could have acheived even more. Haters can hate, but Joe Calzaghe is an ATG.

[Madison Boxing]

We've established many times that you possess no knowledge of Roy's career.


Try looking from Joe's perspective:

He'd have been facing a guy who was faster.

Who was more powerful.

Who had more accuracy.

Who was harder to hit.


It would have been a horrible match up for Joe.


Forget their 2008 fight.

It was a completely different version of Roy than the one we're looking at here.

Please tell me why you're so fixated with their 2008 fight, when Joe himself said that Roy was shot at that point and he had been since 2004??

youre a well renowned calzaghe hater. joe was lightening quick himself, its funny how age is allowed to affect roy but not joe. he'd slowed down by the time he fought roy hopkins and kessler yet he still whooped on them lol

[daggum]

Believe it or not, what most people know as Joe Calzaghe at the top was actually Joe Calzaghe past his best. Maybe at 75% for Jeff Lacy, 70% for Mikkel Kessler and maybe 50% for Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. A prime Joe Calzaghe was an absolute beast. I don't think he'd have ever lost to anybody. At that time British boxing wasn't very glamorous and the Yanks didn't want to know. Nor did Glen Johnson. There wasn't big money to be made in the UK and Calzaghe would have derailed any hyped up Yank's momentum.

ah so calzaghe was only 100 percent when he was fighting bums

[Derranged]

jack_the_rippuh You're gonna let him insult your hero like that?