Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Prez: Arum Never Called To Do Lomachenko-Linares!

[Shadoww702]

I really think he works for someone. People like arum....lol

Not works for Arum but does sht like this to Arum...

[MrShakeAndBake]

Fishnets cant wait to lowball Arum when he calls. Fishnets better call him self - Linares aint no A side.

[whoseyourdaddy]

Ray Beltran has said on camera that he is bigger than Manny Pacquiao. He has also looked very good since losing to Crawford and then... how to put it... changing up his training. He looks to have somewhat undergone the Badou Jack transformation like how Jack got so much better after hiring Memo Heredia. If you know what I mean.

So, Beltran is possibly enhanced, he's way bigger than Lomachenko, and he has one punch KO power against big lightweights. Lomachenko wasn't even the biggest featherweight when he fought at 126. Beltran could easily fight at 140. So, this fight might not be anywhere near as "lame"' as I once thought. I kept thinking back to Crawford-Beltran but that was before Beltran underwent his transformation, not to mention Crawford is way bigger than Beltran.

This is the problem with modern boxing. True boxers like Lomachenko who don't look for the extra advantage of weight bullying get judged unfairly against the weight bullies. Even I was guilty of that when Loma fought Salido. I was like, "Salido just looked like **** against Mikey Garcia. If Loma doesn't blow him out, he's a hypejob." But I didn't understand that Mikey Garcia was actually a 170 pound dude fighting at 126. Well, 170 now. Maybe back then he was only 155 or 160, fighting at 126. Meanwhile Loma was a 135 pound guy fighting Salido, who weighed 11 pounds more than that in the ring vs him. So OF COURSE the fight took on a completely different complexion.

And now the same thing is happening with Beltran. In fact the comparisons of Beltran to Salido are many here. We could be in for a surprise if that fight happens. But what I'm saying is you have weight bullies like Crawford draining down from 170 pounds in camp to make 135, then rehydrating back up to 155 in the ring or whatever, and kicking a smaller Beltran's ass, and now Loma is going to be judged by the same standard also fighting Beltran at 135, when Loma is naturally 30 to 40 pounds smaller than Crawford, and much smaller than Beltran as well. And when Beltran is better now than he was then.

Weight bullies are messing the whole game up, and confusing the **** out of fans, because most fans only look at the weight class boxers fight in, they don't do the research to see what their natural weights are, and how much they are ballooning up after the weigh in. It's also like how some people say Pirog was better than GGG because Pirog knocked out Jacobs, and GGG didn't. But if you look at the fight night weights for Jacobs-Pirog, the Jacobs that Pirog fought was about 10 whole pounds lighter in the ring than the one GGG fought. That's over a full weight class. That's 2/3 of the way from middleweight to light heavyweight. If GGG had fought the 170 pound version of Jacobs, instead of the 180 pound version, Jacobs would have been on the floor from the uppercut GGG landed in the 9th round, and he might not have gotten up. He might even have been on the floor from some of the jabs GGG landed. So fans need to stop comparing apples to oranges without first looking at how big these guys REALLY are, instead of just looking at what weight class they compete at. Jarret Hurd fights at 154 but he's bigger than all the middleweights. That's just one of many examples.

What a Piece of Sh*** liar you are. first of all Mikey does not weigh 170, and second of all Salido was 142 fight night while Lomachenko 137-8 clearly you making thing up to minimized lomachenko's loss to Salido. dude Lomachenko doesn't need idiots/liars like you to defend him, you only make it worse. IMHO Loma is the best in the world but he lost to Salido no excuses!

[chrisJS]

Usally I think people at their word unless they show me otherwise and Bob Arum has shown me (us) otherwise many times.

Lomachenko is only always going to fight in house fighters. Its gonna be beltran, berchelt, valdez, etc etc

Wasn't his last fight against a fighter not in house and actually a fighter that about half of this forum claimed he was scared to death of and that Arum would never let Loma-Rigo happen?

[UNBIASED BOXING]

What a Piece of Sh*** liar you are. first of all Mikey does not weigh 170, and second of all Salido was 142 fight night while Lomachenko 137-8 clearly you making thing up to minimized lomachenko's loss to Salido. dude Lomachenko doesn't need idiots/liars like you to defend him, you only make it worse. IMHO Loma is the best in the world but he lost to Salido no excuses!

Okay, now you're making weight errors here.

Salido was 147. Lomachenko was 136.

Both of you should get your facts straight.

[Steven Mccowan]

NOT sure if I made those points about rigo and his iq, regardless if i did or didn’t, we all know rigo does have a high boxing iq. We also know he moved two weight classes up to fight loma, and we also kno he is closer to 40 now... what’s your point?

Ring iq has everything to do with getting blown out and quitting in a chess match. This was a fight of skills and just as i said before and after he doesnt have much ring iq. He one diminsional and had no ring iq. My point is ppl drop that ring iq that they swore too and called everyone idiots and said they know nothing about boxing etc before that fight have now moved forward to start claiming other ridiculous things and will move in to call everyone names and say all the same things they were saying before, just plug in another fighter that they hope can prove them right and when that dont happen theyll move on to the next with the same rhetoric. Kinda fits in with a reverse white hope of the old days. But with a bit of xenophobe in it

[future hendrixx]

aww sht.. dont tell me loma is taking a dip in the river of duck sauce.

but to be fair beltran is not "bum" so no need to sht on that fight. crawford said in an interview beltran is the most powerful puncher hes faced. so i guess thats a badge on beltrans resume lol.

[killakali]

I see what you're saying but why is Arum willing to contact the Japanese guys then. I would think he would've called GB as soon as they told him too. Its all lip service as usual. Arum knows GB would handle the negotiations, hes full of it!

Arum does business with Teiken who is Linares Japanese promoter. Arum co-promotes Murata with him. Since they are partners it makes sense to contact him.

That being said both Arum and Gomez both have phones. Seems easy for them to pick up the phone and call each other

[Steven Mccowan]

Wasn't his last fight against a fighter not in house and actually a fighter that about half of this forum claimed he was scared to death of and that Arum would never let Loma-Rigo happen?

Oh these ppl have moved on from that lol. Like it never happened and they werent saying those things. They looked like complete fools and they will after mikey gets. In there and looks very foolish himself. I dont hate the beltran fight. Atleast he will not quit. That i know for sure

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Wasn't his last fight against a fighter not in house and actually a fighter that about half of this forum claimed he was scared to death of and that Arum would never let Loma-Rigo happen?

well arum only usally fights toprank or obscure promoter fighters. Its not a diss or the sorts rather just a statement.

That why you get these random ass names only hard core fans maybe knows.