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Originally posted by kushking View PostSo did I,
yet look at what dsab posters sh all over other fighters but are once again busting out the lip balm in anticipation of crowning "him" " the atgreatest " when he once again beats an in house overmatched no hoper while claiming to want/being the best at his weight. This guys so lucky Arum has so much pull with that pos chicken sh outfit the WBO, that's why his very 1st fight was vs some midget bum for his wbo "title",he then lost that "title" vs salido but was allowed to fight for it all over again his next fight vs another tiny overmatched in Russell.
These loma fanbois have brought it on themselves by overhyping loma so much despite him having only faced 2-3 fighters near his size & he lost to 1 of them.
You're going to tell me people don't hype up Crawford or Spence like crazy sometimes?
That's part of the game. Fighters are going to get crazy hype like that sometimes. This has been happening for years.
You act like Loma is calling himself TBE or an ATG.
Some crazy fans may make crazy statements, but that goes for EVERY SINGLE fighter.
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Usally I think people at their word unless they show me otherwise and Bob Arum has shown me (us) otherwise many times.
Lomachenko is only always going to fight in house fighters. Its gonna be beltran, berchelt, valdez, etc etc
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostArum loves to name drop in order to promote his fighters. Look how he is claiming that Ramirez will fight the winner of the WBSS.
It's all bull**** at the end of the day. You rarely see him make any of the fights he blabs about.
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Who here is shocked? lol Whether you call or wait for Arum to call everyone here knows it doesn't matter. Arum don't want to work with anybody not haymon, not golden boy ect. Unless it's a mismatch or low level fight he's not doing it. It's going to be in house Top Rank fighters and everyone knows it. And it's going to be for the WBO phony belt since they are in his pocket and will sanction whatever shyt he shovels. Loma is a really good fighter but fans stop pretending that Loma not actually fighting the best guys in any weight class where he's cherry picked the WBO belt is about guys ducking him and not because his old fart promoter flat out doesn't want to work with rival promoters/advisers in Loma's weight class. Loma called out Linares and says he wants it but Linares who is the man at 135 own promoter is telling you Arum don't want to make the fight. Which is the same thing we have heard from Haymon fighters.
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostRay Beltran has said on camera that he is bigger than Manny Pacquiao. He has also looked very good since losing to Crawford and then... how to put it... changing up his training. He looks to have somewhat undergone the Badou Jack transformation like how Jack got so much better after hiring Memo Heredia. If you know what I mean.
So, Beltran is possibly enhanced, he's way bigger than Lomachenko, and he has one punch KO power against big lightweights. Lomachenko wasn't even the biggest featherweight when he fought at 126. Beltran could easily fight at 140. So, this fight might not be anywhere near as "lame"' as I once thought. I kept thinking back to Crawford-Beltran but that was before Beltran underwent his transformation, not to mention Crawford is way bigger than Beltran.
This is the problem with modern boxing. True boxers like Lomachenko who don't look for the extra advantage of weight bullying get judged unfairly against the weight bullies. Even I was guilty of that when Loma fought Salido. I was like, "Salido just looked like **** against Mikey Garcia. If Loma doesn't blow him out, he's a hypejob." But I didn't understand that Mikey Garcia was actually a 170 pound dude fighting at 126. Well, 170 now. Maybe back then he was only 155 or 160, fighting at 126. Meanwhile Loma was a 135 pound guy fighting Salido, who weighed 11 pounds more than that in the ring vs him. So OF COURSE the fight took on a completely different complexion.
And now the same thing is happening with Beltran. In fact the comparisons of Beltran to Salido are many here. We could be in for a surprise if that fight happens. But what I'm saying is you have weight bullies like Crawford draining down from 170 pounds in camp to make 135, then rehydrating back up to 155 in the ring or whatever, and kicking a smaller Beltran's ass, and now Loma is going to be judged by the same standard also fighting Beltran at 135, when Loma is naturally 30 to 40 pounds smaller than Crawford, and much smaller than Beltran as well. And when Beltran is better now than he was then.
Weight bullies are messing the whole game up, and confusing the **** out of fans, because most fans only look at the weight class boxers fight in, they don't do the research to see what their natural weights are, and how much they are ballooning up after the weigh in. It's also like how some people say Pirog was better than GGG because Pirog knocked out Jacobs, and GGG didn't. But if you look at the fight night weights for Jacobs-Pirog, the Jacobs that Pirog fought was about 10 whole pounds lighter in the ring than the one GGG fought. That's over a full weight class. That's 2/3 of the way from middleweight to light heavyweight. If GGG had fought the 170 pound version of Jacobs, instead of the 180 pound version, Jacobs would have been on the floor from the uppercut GGG landed in the 9th round, and he might not have gotten up. He might even have been on the floor from some of the jabs GGG landed. So fans need to stop comparing apples to oranges without first looking at how big these guys REALLY are, instead of just looking at what weight class they compete at. Jarret Hurd fights at 154 but he's bigger than all the middleweights. That's just one of many examples.
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Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing View PostYou act like fans of other fighters don't hype them up like crazy. You just see what you want to see!
You're going to tell me people don't hype up Crawford or Spence like crazy sometimes?
That's part of the game. Fighters are going to get crazy hype like that sometimes. This has been happening for years.
You act like Loma is calling himself TBE or an ATG.
Some crazy fans may make crazy statements, but that goes for EVERY SINGLE fighter.
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