Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua is Not Worldwide, Nobody Knows His Name in U.S.

[TheBigLug]

Wilder is likely more popular in the UK than the US to casuals too. But his popularity is starting to increase stateside. A KO of Ortiz will go a long way.

He'll will likely register Showtime's highest viewership since the "free trial" era in a few weeks. I'm still shocked by his ratings for Stiverne II. That number was the second highest of 2017 at 887,000, second only to Garcia-Broner at 937,000. So people are tuning in for him.

Joshua sells more PPV's v the likes of Takam than Wilder gets watching his non-PPV fights, in a country with like 1/5 of the population of USA.

Wilder really needs to shut up about popularity, he's not in Joshua's league in that department.

Still hope Wilder does knock AJ out though and think he can, but he needs to fully accept he's the B-side if/when it happens.

[killakali]

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[killakali]

Any FREE HW fight should do well . Thats why Wilder isnt on PPV ,bc THEN he would have had to fight top relevant guys .

Anyone comparing a PPV that aired on both HBO and Showtime networks ,at different times to a FREE fight has brain damage to suggest its proof of popularity .

Everyone in my house hold saw Wilder fight twice ,one was against Arreola , do you think they tuned in bc of Wilder ? They didn't even know who he was , they tuned in bc it was on basic cable and didn't have to pay extra!

WIlder isnt a big name here. That isn't a knock on him. Most boxers aren't big names in the US besides Floyd Manny Canelo and even Chavez Jr is a bigger name than Wilder. Not a better fighter but definitely more well known.

[Tom Cruise]

WIlder isnt a big name here. That isn't a knock on him. Most boxers aren't big names in the US besides Floyd Manny Canelo and even Chavez Jr is a bigger name than Wilder. Not a better fighter but definitely more well known.

If its not a knock on Wilder, the surely it isnt a knock on AJ either if he isnt a name in the US?

[kafkod]

Boxing is not that big but that's in comparison to other sports. A Las Vegas fight is a big deal. Random people on the streets in big or small cities don't necessarily know who all the boxers are but at the same time it doesn't mean people won't show up to a big fight.

You're right. Joshua can make more money fighting in the UK. I'm also convinced that he could be a big crossover star in the U.S. if he chose to come here.

Joshua coming to the U.S. will do more for his career than it would for Wilder going to the UK.

The days when any world title fight in Vegas is a big deal are over, sad to say. The combined total of PPVs for both Ward Kovalev fights was only 300k, and Ward is a lot better known in the US than Wilder.

There's a reason why Wilder vs Ortiz is not going to be in Vegas or on PPV, and that's it, right there.

As things stand right now, AJ is the only active fighter anywhere who can make $20million whoever he fights. Even Canelo needs another "name" like Golovkin to make that kind of money. No doubt AJ would be making even more if he broke big in the Startes, but he doesn't need Wilder to do that.

[kafkod]

"Over here in America they don't even know his name. They just know him as a big guy from England. That's fact."

Oxymoron at its finest!

That made me laugh too!

[kafkod]

He has tried to fight Wlad, Fury, Parker, AJ, Povetkin, and Ortiz.

Wilder is the most avoided man in boxing. He is the modern day heavyweight version of Paul Williams. No one will fight him; everyone is scared.

No one denies that AJ and Wilder are the two best hw's by far. Yet for some reason AJ's fans don't want him to dare to be great. If AJ ever grows a pair, Wilder will go do to AJ what Spence did to Brook.

Did you see that fight? A yankee breaking the face of a Brit! lmao. AJ saw that and said he doesn't want that to happen to him, so he talks about Miller and won't even mention the name Wilder.

Props to Wilder for fighting Ortiz ... but Povetkin was his mando, so he had no choice there, and he has never made any serious attempt fight AJ, Parker or Fury.

Talking shit on social media is not trying to make a fight .. it's just talking shit.

[kafkod]

How did you enjoy the Spence-Brook fight?

Not the outcome I was hoping for, but it was a great fight.

If Wilder had the same atittude as Spence he could have been fighting AJ in the UK next for 10x the money he will make for Ortiz.

[Koolz87]

They probably couldn't understand Eddie with his ***** accent

[HarvardBlue]

The days when any world title fight in Vegas is a big deal are over, sad to say. The combined total of PPVs for both Ward Kovalev fights was only 300k, and Ward is a lot better known in the US than Wilder.

There's a reason why Wilder vs Ortiz is not going to be in Vegas or on PPV, and that's it, right there.

As things stand right now, AJ is the only active fighter anywhere who can make $20million whoever he fights. Even Canelo needs another "name" like Golovkin to make that kind of money. No doubt AJ would be making even more if he broke big in the Startes, but he doesn't need Wilder to do that.

Las Vegas IS still the place for big world title fights in the states. New York is trying to take that spot and it probably will soon. Ward isn't that much more popular than Wilder. He seems to be rising faster than Ward in popularity. Ward and Kovalev combined was not a big fight for casual fans. Ward alone couldn't carry the fight and Kovalev is even less known than Ward here. Combine that with the lack of promotion it's not surprising that the fight didn't do better.

Wilder and Ortiz wouldn't sell in Vegas and shouldn't be PPV. It's a bigger fight in NY or even Miami because of the Cuban population in both cities. Wilder and Joshua would sell well in Vegas. Unless Joshua is fighting Wilder in the states it will take him awhile to gain any fans in the states because he's still relatively unknown. The Klitschko fight helped him a lot.