Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua is Not Worldwide, Nobody Knows His Name in U.S.

[kafkod]

The difference is Deontay wants to fight AJ and AJ wants to fight everyone EXCEPT Deontay. Deontay isn't saying he's known worldwide, but to do that he needs to fight AJ. And he wants to do that. But AJ is hiding in the U.K. calling out Jarrell Miller.

Pretty big difference. One's a real champion wanting to fight the best and the other is ducking with increasingly ridiculous excuses.

If AJ is unknown worldwide, then how how the heck is fighting him going to make Wilder a worldwide name?

The bottom line is that AJ makes 15 - 20 million dollars per fight and Wilder only makes around 1 - 1.5 million ... but he's demanding a 50/50 split, or no fight.

So now AJ is fighting another undefeated world champion for $20 million+ and Wilder is fighting Ortiz for comparative peanuts.

[Dr.Cool]

The irony here is Wilder is nt popular bc of his fights , hes popular for tweets and you tube media talking sbout Joshua so that right tells you whos more popular any place on this planet .# FACTS .

No one has ever heard of any Wilder tweets. Does he even have a twitter?

Wilder is popular for being a fighter who ko's everyone. He has fought on network tv numerous times. He is also the only boxer not named Mayweather or with TR that espn talks about.

Just because you put #FACTS doesn't mean it is a fact. It just proves you go out of your way to make stuff up because you hate Wilder so much. That you base your actions on what Wilder does. You might follow Wilder on Twitter, but no one else does. The rest of the world knows him as a former beer delivery guy who is now hw champion or they don't know him at all. You are obviously obsessed with Wilder. Quit acting so butthurt.

[Tygshsu]

'' All roads lead to Deontay Wilder because I am going nowhere, no time soon." - 'Bronze-Bomber'

Tha peoples champ has spoken. UK try keeping your chants down whilst King Deontay is in the building, I want to listen to the champs commentating.

Deontay will be part of the Sky Commentery Team for the Joshua Fight.Not on Showtime.So how will Americans like yourself be able to hear what Wilder is saying.Wilder was also part of the Sky Sports Commentery Team for Joshua/Klitschko and i can tell you,all the stereotypes on Americans About their intelligence was proven correct,given i had to endure listening to him and Carl Froch talking ****

[juggernaut666]

No one has ever heard of any Wilder tweets. Does he even have a twitter?

Wilder is popular for being a fighter who ko's everyone. He has fought on network tv numerous times. He is also the only boxer not named Mayweather or with TR that espn talks about.

Just because you put #FACTS doesn't mean it is a fact. It just proves you go out of your way to make stuff up because you hate Wilder so much. That you base your actions on what Wilder does. You might follow Wilder on Twitter, but no one else does. The rest of the world knows him as a former beer delivery guy who is now hw champion or they don't know him at all. You are obviously obsessed with Wilder. Quit acting so butthurt.

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[Tygshsu]

AJ is far more well known in the UK than Wilder is in the US.

However, there are plenty of people in the US that know Wilder and don't know AJ. Wilder has been headlining Showtime, NBC and FOX for years now, with millions of people having seen him.

AJ's fights have been in the afternoon, with a few hundred thousand watching.

There's no doubt AJ is the far bigger star worldwide, but in the US, Wilder is definitely the bigger star. AJ's US viewership is clearly far lower than Wilder's.

Cause he fights at 5Pm in the Afternoon in America you idiot.Also he is not American,so why would Americans tune in to watch 2 Non-American boxers go at it.When you consider these numbers and how poor Showtime Promote Joshua in the US,they are actually decent numbers

[Butch.McRae]

No ****? Where did you get these golden nuggets of fact? Don't tell me you've been overseas?

Not sure I get where you're going. I'm a lawyer so I do a fair amount of traveling, but in my opinion, Wilder is probably more known in the UK (proportionally), just based on the % of people who follow boxing and the fact the he's been marketed as AJ's future opponent. It's just an assumption.

[Dr.Cool]

If AJ is unknown worldwide, then how how the heck is fighting him going to make Wilder a worldwide name?

The bottom line is that AJ makes 15 - 20 million dollars per fight and Wilder only makes around 1 - 1.5 million ... but he's demanding a 50/50 split, or no fight.

So now AJ is fighting another undefeated world champion for $20 million+ and Wilder is fighting Ortiz for comparative peanuts.

The US is where the money is at. Wilder is demanding negotations with AJ and AJ is calling out Jarrell Miller.

Beating the only other top hw is a pretty good way to get known the world over. And again, ppv's bring in big money in the U.S. Everyone knows this. Do you honestly think if his fights had a million ppv buys in the USA he wouldn't be making double what he makes now? And he does make good money now. But his legacy is being defined as avoiding the one real challenge. And is unknown in the USA.

AJ sells out stadiums, but a million people paying $70-$100 for every fight is a lot more money. But nope, no Wilder for AJ. He doesn't need Wilder. He needs Takam and Miller. lmao.

AJ is a laughingstock already. He is being laughed at and mocked the same as Thurman is for ducking Spence. But hey, he makes $15 mill so why would you want to see him fight the best?

I don't understand why AJ's fans, like you, do not want him to fight Wilder. Are you seriously that scared he will lose? What you destroy you that much, that you don't want to see the two best hw's in the world fight each other?

Get off AJ's c^ck and become a fan of boxing. Real boxing fans want to see the best fight the best. Fanboys want their fav. fighters to fight bums so they can say how great he is.

Every fighter makes "demands" that are negotiated. The difference is AJ is just saying no fight. He's not saying if Wilder does this or agrees to that, he will fight him, he is saying he won't fight Wilder.

[Tygshsu]

if wilder and Joshua fought same time and town in USA againts different opponents , which venue do you think would sell out quicker?

This..However Wilder still has the advantage of being the American Fighter in AMERICA.It's like saying what would sell out faster in the Uk,Joshua Fight or a Wilder fight

[Butch.McRae]

Assuming it was comparable opponents, Wilder's fight would sell more tickets.

Non-US fans don't realize that while Wilder isn't some big PPV star, he is still a star in the US. Showtime has dozens and dozens of fighters. Only two of them draw significantly more viewers than the rest: Wilder and Broner.

Wilder is one of Showtime's most reliable ratings draws and he is a solid ticket seller. Wilder vs. King Kong will likely sell 12-15,000 tickets in New York next month head to head with HBO's show in New York.

If Joshua vs. Parker had been held in New York on that night instead of in England, it would struggle to sell that amount.

The problem with Joshua fans is that it's not good enough to concede that AJ is the much bigger star. That he deserves the lion's share of the money, etc. Joshua fans, for whatever reason, feel the need to lie about Wilder's drawing power. Insisting nobody in the US has hear of Wilder, even though the numbers clearly show Wilder is one of the biggest boxing stars in the US.

For some reason people are ignoring Wilder's live gate and ratings for Stiverne lol I think those numbers settled any debate about his popularity.

The guy is one or two fights (maybe some savage KOs) away from being in the PPV talk here. He will absolutely sell north of 12k tickets. I'm actually expecting 14k+ based on recent numbers for Dibellla at Barclays.

Wilder did those Stiverne numbers against a UFC/GSP card at MSG too. Thats impressive no matter how you spin it.

[Tygshsu]

The US is where the money is at. Wilder is demanding negotations with AJ and AJ is calling out Jarrell Miller.

Beating the only other top hw is a pretty good way to get known the world over. And again, ppv's bring in big money in the U.S. Everyone knows this. Do you honestly think if his fights had a million ppv buys in the USA he wouldn't be making double what he makes now? And he does make good money now. But his legacy is being defined as avoiding the one real challenge. And is unknown in the USA.

AJ sells out stadiums, but a million people paying $70-$100 for every fight is a lot more money. But nope, no Wilder for AJ. He doesn't need Wilder. He needs Takam and Miller. lmao.

AJ is a laughingstock already. He is being laughed at and mocked the same as Thurman is for ducking Spence. But hey, he makes $15 mill so why would you want to see him fight the best?

I don't understand why AJ's fans, like you, do not want him to fight Wilder. Are you seriously that scared he will lose? What you destroy you that much, that you don't want to see the two best hw's in the world fight each other?

Get off AJ's c^ck and become a fan of boxing. Real boxing fans want to see the best fight the best. Fanboys want their fav. fighters to fight bums so they can say how great he is.

Every fighter makes "demands" that are negotiated. The difference is AJ is just saying no fight. He's not saying if Wilder does this or agrees to that, he will fight him, he is saying he won't fight Wilder.

You Yanks are ******.Once Joshua-Wilder is made and i am sure Joshua will Hospitalise Wilder,what other big fights are their Worldwide ??? That is why everyone is holding out this fight,until it becomes a Super Fight and a guranteed seller in the US.Fighting Miller in Brooklyn,and knocking that fat,loudmouth American out will help make the Wilder fight Bigger.Then Hearn will try to make Wilder-Whyte in the UK,as long as Wilder Knocks out Whyte,which i expect him to do.All roads are their,Joshua v Wilder,December 2018,Las Vegas and Showtime PPV,with guranteed big money in the Uk and US.You will complain about me saying Wilder-Whyte in London however that will raise Wilder's Profile by 10X,And Guarantee big PPV Money in the Uk,given it will be at 4am in the Morning for Uk Fans as i expect Joshua-Wilder to happen in Vegas.It also offers a Fallback Option,if Joshua and Wilder dont do good PPV Numbers in the US,they will have the Uk Money as a fallback.