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Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View PostThis is what I always say. So much of what Roy was came from just being a once a generation athlete. His peak was much higher than Floyd's but Floyd's sustained level of greatness lasted much longer and Floyd is possibly one of the best technical and smartest fighters ever.
that pretty much sums it up
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Originally posted by future hendrixx View Postfloyd would beat the "living sht" out of duran, chavez and pryor? really... but he couldn't beat the "living sht" out of castillo? ok then. what makes u so confident floyd beats those guys? his fight vs oscar should've been a draw but one judge mysteriously gave floyd the 12th round (a clear round for oscar) and that gave him the split decision. . maidana arguably beat him the first fight. and the rematch was ruined by bayless. so u mean to tell me the guy that beat past prime oscar at 154 with a SPLIT decision will beat the "living sht" out of winky wright at 154? lol.
chavez sr is a style nightmare for floyd. i dont see any version of mayweather beating him. and im saying that based on his struggles against castillo, his war vs cotto, his split decision vs oscar and his war vs maidana.
when u say floyd will beat the "living sht" out of chavez, pryor, duran, leonard, hearns, whitaker and winky.. what is your argument to justify that? screaming "TBE" is not a strategy tell me HOW floyd beats the "living sht" out of those guys.
Oscar landing some jabs in the middle rounds vs Floyd is not a "draw". The fight was one sided, with Oscar doing well here and their. But when Floyd faced Oscar, he was a little dude jumping up in weight to chase a fight with bigger men for higher pay.
The grown up Floyd who faced Canelo, albeit older, would TKO Oscar in his prime. And beat the living shiet out of any fighter in history imo.
I think Marcos beat Floyd imo. But when Floyd faced him, he was at the beginning of his "washed" days, where he began to run around the ring and clinch allot. Marcos was 165lbs while Floyd was 148lbs. I feel floyd lost, while You feel it was arguable that he lost.
But to me, you have good days and bad days. I have seen Floyd humiliate fighters better and greater than Marcos.
I think Floyd beats Winky, Duran, Pryor, SRL, All of them. They all had bad days and losses against men not half as good as Floyd.
Chavez got humiliated by Pernell, who is not half the fighter Floyd is. I see Floyd putting on a show vs Chavez myself.
I think Floyd's combination of skills, athleticism, tempermet, confidence, and instincts, is far too great for any fighter in history. His style is where any and everything you do, will get you punched in the mouth. And the you become gun shy, and he humiliates and dominates. Fighters who wont get gun shy, Marcos, or any other crude brawler. But when faced with those types, Mayweather was able to run around the ring and have them running into shots. The only time he didnt do good with that tactic was Marcos when imo, he seemed shot. And Castillio, where he had a bum shoulder.
Now when we talk styles, who has similar styles to them? Certainly not SRL, Duran, or Roy. And against Duran in the rematch, Duran stopped everytime he got punched. Then the fool quit.
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I love Roy but Floyd's legacy will always be greater than Roy's by a huge distance in their overall careers, for me. This is a FIVE-TIME lineal champion in four divisions who won over 20 lineal title fights. I think he dethroned eleven titlists/champs. Undefeated for twenty years, held the real title most of the time in these divisions for fifteen of the years within that time period. You look at Roy's stats for things like this, they're nowhere in sight.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Postif its about whats in your head, and not in reality, you should have made it clear in the first place.
I have no idea what goes in inside your mind.
in your head I'm a liar ok. but outside I'm not. First thing that comes to mind about Duran is that for "No Mas" to have any kind of meaning, he must have been helluva fighter not to barely get stopped in the rest of his career, and SRL likewise to acheive that against such a warrior. IT is in no way a statement that he is SHYTE!
This is a mark of greatness, not a roy jones exhibition fight equivalent.
Someone here needs to look at the world outside their head once in a while.
Bottom line, when you get schooled, exposed or knocked out brutally, it negates other happy memories. We've seen it time and again. Manny, Choco, Hamed, Roy, Tarver, Toney, Khan, Alexander, Algieri, Tyson, Holyfield, Mayorga, Mosley, De La Hoya, Hatton, Tszyu, etc etc etc.
But think what you want.
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Originally posted by revelated View PostWhatever bro. People who stopped watching boxing will concur with everything I've said about what they remember MOST about these fighters.
Bottom line, when you get schooled, exposed or knocked out brutally, it negates other happy memories. We've seen it time and again. Manny, Choco, Hamed, Roy, Tarver, Toney, Khan, Alexander, Algieri, Tyson, Holyfield, Mayorga, Mosley, De La Hoya, Hatton, Tszyu, etc etc etc.
But think what you want.
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Originally posted by TheCell8 View PostThe problem is that Roy really damaged his legacy by fighting too long.
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However, let's not get it twisted. Had those two ever met in the ring around the same weight class, division or even a catch weight; Roy would have tore his ass up. That is not even debatable.
Head to head this match up is not even close. When it came to ability Jones had every conceivable edge on Floyd. May's skill set and fundamentals wouldn't have been enough to off set Roy's natural ability of size, speed and punching power.Last edited by champion4ever; 02-12-2018, 12:21 AM.
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Originally posted by champion4ever View PostHowever, let's not get it twisted. Had those two ever met in the ring around the same weight class, division or even a catch weight; Roy would have tore his up. That is not even debatable.
Head to head this match up is not even close. When it came to ability Jones had every conceivable edge on Floyd. May's skill set and fundamentals wouldn't have been enough to off set Roy's natural ability of size, speed and punching power.
What a dumb post
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