Linares vs lomachenko talks are on?

[chrisJS]

When Linares was named champion in recess, the deal was that he would fight the new champion in his first fight back. He broke the deal and instead targeted an easier fight against the WBA champion and blatantly ducked the WBC champion he had promised to face.




How can you afford the same pass to Linares when Linares had a guaranteed fight against the WBC champion and ducked it over and over and over? All Linares has to do is ask for a purse bid. Then Mikey has to fight him or give up the belt. But instead of doing that, Linares insists that Mikey must sign with his promoter, or fight on HBO, or any other nonsense demands. It's a mandatory fight. None of this is necessary. Just go to purse bid. Linares took another fight, so Mikey took another fight. After that, the WBC is ordering a purse bid. As soon as they finally called Linares' bluff, now he suddenly wants to fight Loma. Linares has had four opportunities to fight for the WBC title since being named champion in recess and he's ducked it all four times and about to duck it a fifth time.




How can Linares be the champion when he keeps refusing to fight for the title over and over and over? The proof is in the pudding. Any time the WBC wants a purse bid, he takes another fight instead. If he really wants to fight Mikey, he is Mikey's mandatory. He can force the fight, yet he isn't. That tells you all you need to know.




I'm an adult interested in intelligent conversation. Can you provide that? Nobody is "hugging nuts." Are you in middle school? Be honest. I couldn't care less one way or the other who Mikey fights. I respect his talent and knew he would dominate Broner, but I still rooted for Broner over him. My only interest in this thread is that you blatantly lied about who held the diamond title and then did a complete reversal on your views of the diamond title once you realized you were wrong about who held it.

That is the literal definition of "nuthugging."

Oh Garcia likes strawberries? **** strawberries. Oh, I was wrong and it's actually Linares that likes strawberries? I love strawberries then.


That's what you did.

Crappy analogy my point is that Linares was the champion and Mikey got his title from a dude who got it out the dumpster when Linares was fighting another champion for more money. Linares or GBP didn't require a contract from Mikey. Mikey called for the fight and then made it not happen no matter how you spin it. You say "none of this is necessary go to purse bids" Mikey is the guy who told them to stop the purse bids and then declined the fight.

No I'm not in middle school. I'm a 32 year old fight attending boxing fan.

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my point is that Linares was the champion and Mikey got his title from a dude who got it out the dumpster

But Linares himself got it out of the dumpster!!! Look at all the nuthugging you're doing. You totally flip positions when you find out Linares did what you accused others of.

DIAMOND TITLE SUCKS when you think Mikey has it. DIAMOND TITLE IS GREAT when you think Linares has it.

TITLE OUT OF GARBAGE when you think Mikey won a vacant title, LINARES WAS THE CHAMPION when you find out Linares won a vacant title.

Mikey had no power to stop purse bids. He is not the mandatory. Linares is.

LINARES HAS HAD TWO YEARS TO ASK FOR A PURSE BID. LONG BEFORE MIKEY WAS EVEN THE CHAMPION.

Wake up and smell the roses dude . . .

[chrisJS]

But Linares himself got it out of the dumpster!!! Look at all the nuthugging you're doing. You totally flip positions when you find out Linares did what you accused others of.

DIAMOND TITLE SUCKS when you think Mikey has it. DIAMOND TITLE IS GREAT when you think Linares has it.

TITLE OUT OF GARBAGE when you think Mikey won a vacant title, LINARES WAS THE CHAMPION when you find out Linares won a vacant title.

Mikey had no power to stop purse bids. He is not the mandatory. Linares is.

LINARES HAS HAD TWO YEARS TO ASK FOR A PURSE BID. LONG BEFORE MIKEY WAS EVEN THE CHAMPION.

Wake up and smell the roses dude . . .

Again, Linares stayed in the division, Figueroa didn't. I'm not a linares fan (I'm actually more of a Mikey fan). Again, stop lying about me saying the diamond belt is great. I didn't even say the WBC belt is great at any point so stop lying. Linares was the champion since the last guy moved out of the division and then beat another champion in a more lucrative match and this was all signed, sealed and delivered before Mikey had even fought at 135.

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Linares was the champion since the last guy moved out of the division

No. He became champion when he won the title and stopped being champion when he vacated. He's had two years to fight the champion since and makes excuses over and over. Stop trying to create an alternate universe. You scoffed at the diamond belt when you thought Mikey had it, then started insisting it was a real belt when you found out Linares had it. You're trapped man. Quit while you're ahead. You lost all credibility the second you mentioned the ring belt. Which is literally owned by Linares' promoter.

[chrisJS]

No. He became champion when he won the title and stopped being champion when he vacated. He's had two years to fight the champion since and makes excuses over and over. Stop trying to create an alternate universe. You scoffed at the diamond belt when you thought Mikey had it, then started insisting it was a real belt when you found out Linares had it. You're trapped man. Quit while you're ahead. You lost all credibility the second you mentioned the ring belt. Which is literally owned by Linares' promoter.

I scoffed at the way Mikey won the belt not the title of the belt. Linares had it first, stayed in the division, got injured, beat another champion for more money than was available with Zlatcinin and Mikey called for the fight and for his own reasons declined it. Linares earned the title fair and square as per Ring rules. He became #1 in the division legitimately (weak division but still..) and beat the #2 which is clear ring policy so saying that the Ring manufactured that for Linares is also another lie.

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I scoffed at the way Mikey won the belt

Mikey won the belt by knocking out the undefeated champion that Linares ducked.

Linares won the vacant belt from the trash against a fighter with 24 wins in 33 fights.

This can't end well for you. I've got you.

Linares earned the title fair and square as per Ring rules.

But Ring rules were changed after Linares' promoter bought the magazine. The Ring rules no longer have anything to do with the lineal title. The Ring rules make no sense and are selectively enforced to benefit HBO and harm Showtime. The most credible members of the Ring ratings advisory board quit in disgust when Linares' promoter started interfering with the ratings and they started the TBRB as a replacement.

Anybody pointing to Ring instead of TBRB is being fooled by the HBO propaganda machine. Ring is literally owned by HBO's lead promoter. How can you point to Ring as an independent arbiter when it's not independent?

[GMAN SUPREME]

cant wait its going to be a good fight. lomachenko by late stoppage

[Outworn]

I've high hopes it will be next. Snake Arum is negotiating with Linares's co-promoter Akihirko Honda to have it on ESPN either on April 28 or May 12. Bitter Arum didn't want to talk to Oscar first.

It will be another highly entertaining fight between 2 skilled fighters after the Boringoquitter fight.

[Evil_Meat]

Linares won't see the final bell. He's massively overrated right now and some think he's a super skillful p4p boxer.

But all Linares really has going for him is handspeed, size and experience. Take that away - and Lomachenko is the best at taking that away - and all that's left is an average boxer with a weak chin and paper skin.


Easy fight for Lomachenko but Linares will undoubtedly show more heart than Rigondeaux and at least try to fight.

You’re ignorant to boxing skills if all you see in Linares is speed.

[TheUntouchable]

Well, a least they are the same weight. Rigondeaux is a midget compare to those two. And I know he disgracefully quit. So please save your remarks about GR quitting job.

Linares will be the much bigger man in the ring, that won't help him. It's not about size, it's about skill and neither Rigondeaux nor Linares come close to Lomachenko, sorry.

You’re ignorant to boxing skills if all you see in Linares is speed.

Handspeed is clearly Linares' standout quality. His "boxing skills" are average at world level, nothing special. Handspeed makes him look good. Similar to Khan. But Khan boxed at a much higher level obviously.