Linares vs lomachenko talks are on?

[yankees7448]

Just looked through the Golden Boy roster.... it's not possible

A couple decent fights I think.


Murata vs. Lemieux- Step up fight for Murata. Lemiuex can get a quick trip back to relevance.

Lucas Matthysse vs. Konstantin Ponomarev- Ponomarev gets a title shot against the worst belt holder in the division. Matthysse gets another fight at 147 to get comfortable with the weight without having to worry about a puncher.

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A couple decent fights I think.


Murata vs. Lemieux- Step up fight for Murata. Lemiuex can get a quick trip back to relevance.

Lucas Matthysse vs. Konstantin Ponomarev- Ponomarev gets a title shot against the worst belt holder in the division. Matthysse gets another fight at 147 to get comfortable with the weight without having to worry about a puncher.

They wouldn't put their name guys on it

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He won the belt in 2014. He got an injury and they elevated him. He still listed as a WBC champion. He beat Crolla for the WBA in 2016.

you very clearly stated that mikey garcia was not wbc world champion and that he only held the diamond title. that was a lie. own up to your mistake before you start trying to move the goal posts.

linares was stripped of the world title due to inactivity, but as champion in recess, he had the right to face the wbc champion in his first fight back.

he refused to face the wbc champion and fought the wba champion instead. garcia beat the new wbc champion that linares had refused to face.

those are the facts. please dont lie and say garcia has the diamond title. that is not true. linares has the diamond title and has the right to face mikey, but appears to be more interested in loma.

which is fine, just be honest about the facts.

[chrisJS]

you very clearly stated that mikey garcia was not wbc world champion and that he only held the diamond title. that was a lie. own up to your mistake before you start trying to move the goal posts.

linares was stripped of the world title due to inactivity, but as champion in recess, he had the right to face the wbc champion in his first fight back.

he refused to face the wbc champion and fought the wba champion instead. garcia beat the new wbc champion that linares had refused to face.

those are the facts. please dont lie and say garcia has the diamond title. that is not true. linares has the diamond title and has the right to face mikey, but appears to be more interested in loma.

which is fine, just be honest about the facts.

There's a difference between a lie and a mix up. I knew Linares was champ first, got injured and won the WBA but rightfully kept some status as a WBC champion. I don't care too much for particulars with the sanctioning bodies especially when they have multiple champs. Mikey then told the WBC not to enforce the fight that he'd negotiate it and turn it down. You trying to spin it like Linares is running from Garcia is somewhat of a lie since he was ready to sign until Mikey went a different way.

Linares never lost his title in the ring and has a status of a WBC champ you saying he's not got that status is a lie. Garcia himself said Linares is the real champion.

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There's a difference between a lie and a mix up.

Not when you start lying after the fact to try to cover the mix up.

I knew Linares was champ first, got injured and won the WBA but rightfully kept some status as a WBC champion.

He lost the title the same way he won it. Figueroa was named "champion in recess" and Linares won the vacant title. Then Linares was named "champion in recess" and Zlaticanin won the vacant title. So Linares has no room to complain since he would have never won the title in the first place if the WBC hadn't named someone else "champion in recess" first.

Linares has no status as a WBC world champion. He was given the honorary WBC diamond belt when he won the WBA title. That does not make him a unified champion. Zlaticanin was the WBC world champion and then Mikey beat him for the title.

I don't care too much for particulars with the sanctioning bodies especially when they have multiple champs.

#1 - The WBC doesn't have multiple champions except for the rare instance where they have an interim champion. The diamond title is not a WBC world championship, it's an honorary award given to commemorate special events.

#2 - If you don't care for the particulars of the sanctioning bodies, THEN DON'T POST FALSE INFORMATION AND THEN DOUBLE DOWN WHEN YOU'RE CALLED OUT ON IT.

Here are some gems from you in this thread:

• He's the WBC champ too.

• The WBC ridiculously made a diamond belt for Garcia

• He still listed as a WBC champion


If you don't care for the particulars . . . maybe, uh, don't pretend to be an expert on the particulars?!?!??!?

Linares never lost his title in the ring and has a status of a WBC champ you saying he's not got that status is a lie.

Figueroa never lost his title in the ring either. Linares won the vacant title when Figueroa was named champion in recess. So he has no room to complain about losing the title the same exact way.

Linares has no status as WBC world champion. He has the meaningless diamond title. The very diamond title you dismissed as meaningless when you mistakenly believed that was the belt Mikey held. As soon as you realized how wrong you were, suddenly the diamond title became a super important title to you, when two minutes earlier it was meaningless when you thought Mikey held it. You're 100% busted.

[chrisJS]

Not when you start lying after the fact to try to cover the mix up.




He lost the title the same way he won it. Figueroa was named "champion in recess" and Linares won the vacant title. Then Linares was named "champion in recess" and Zlaticanin won the vacant title. So Linares has no room to complain since he would have never won the title in the first place if the WBC hadn't named someone else "champion in recess" first.

Linares has no status as a WBC world champion. He was given the honorary WBC diamond belt when he won the WBA title. That does not make him a unified champion. Zlaticanin was the WBC world champion and then Mikey beat him for the title.




#1 - The WBC doesn't have multiple champions except for the rare instance where they have an interim champion. The diamond title is not a WBC world championship, it's an honorary award given to commemorate special events.

#2 - If you don't care for the particulars of the sanctioning bodies, THEN DON'T POST FALSE INFORMATION AND THEN DOUBLE DOWN WHEN YOU'RE CALLED OUT ON IT.

Here are some gems from you in this thread:

• He's the WBC champ too.

• The WBC ridiculously made a diamond belt for Garcia

• He still listed as a WBC champion


If you don't care for the particulars . . . maybe, uh, don't pretend to be an expert on the particulars?!?!??!?




Figueroa never lost his title in the ring either. Linares won the vacant title when Figueroa was named champion in recess. So he has no room to complain about losing the title the same exact way.

Linares has no status as WBC world champion. He has the meaningless diamond title. The very diamond title you dismissed as meaningless when you mistakenly believed that was the belt Mikey held. As soon as you realized how wrong you were, suddenly the diamond title became a super important title to you, when two minutes earlier it was meaningless when you thought Mikey held it. You're 100% busted.

The WBC title that Mikey won was worthless and even he himself said that Linares is the real WBC champion. Figueroa was already out of the division by the time Linares made his first defense and in fact when Linares won the belt had already had his last fight at 135. By the time Mikey won his handpicked title Linares was still competing in the division and to this day still is so the comparison is not so valid sorry. The WBC diamond title isn't super important to me at all. Point me to where I say how important it is otherwise stop lying and putting words in my mouth. He's won the WBA, WBC titles in the ring not lost them and also is recognized as the Ring and lineal champions and though they aren't the be all and end all they make him the current most accomplished lightweight and top dog until someone comes in and proves him wrong. Mikey had his chance and declined the opportunity now it appears Lomachenko is going to not decline that opportunity.

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The WBC title that Mikey won was worthless

Mikey won the title by knocking out the undefeated champion Linares ducked.

If your position is that the title was "worthless" because it had been vacant earlier when a former champion was in recess, then you're still being inconsistent because Linares won the vacant title when a former champion was in recess.

Mikey won the belt by knocking out the undefeated champion while Linares won the vacant title against a fighter with 24 wins in 33 fights.

No matter how you try to spin this, the facts destroy you. You're trapped. You admittedly attempted to speak authoritatively about a subject you knew nothing about, you repeatedly posted false information, and you totally flip flopped on the value of the diamond belt when you realized it was actually Linares that had it and not Mikey.

It's all black and white. Easily verifiable in this thread. You checkmated yourself bruh.

[chrisJS]

Mikey won the title by knocking out the undefeated champion Linares ducked.

If your position is that the title was "worthless" because it had been vacant earlier when a former champion was in recess, then you're still being inconsistent because Linares won the vacant title when a former champion was in recess.

Mikey won the belt by knocking out the undefeated champion while Linares won the vacant title against a fighter with 24 wins in 33 fights.

No matter how you try to spin this, the facts destroy you. You're trapped. You admittedly attempted to speak authoritatively about a subject you knew nothing about, you repeatedly posted false information, and you totally flip flopped on the value of the diamond belt when you realized it was actually Linares that had it and not Mikey.

It's all black and white. Easily verifiable in this thread. You checkmated yourself bruh.

Hardly ducked Zlatcinin and you are being inconstant. You are saying Mikey didn't duck Linares instead of opting to fight someone else for reportedly more money but your not affording the same pass to Linares who was injured and then offered a fight for more money in England with another champion and the for the Ring belt. Linares stayed in the division so doesn't make any sense for him to lose a status once Figueroa moved out the division it made sense to keep Linares as full champion. Zlatcinin won the title against a nobody so to act like he was deserving too when Linares was busy facing a champion who'd scored some good wins and had good form is a stretch.

I'm not even a Linares fan but I can see you are a big nutthugger when it comes to Mikey hence your double standards and one eyed interpretation of the events that transpired.

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Hardly ducked Zlatcinin

When Linares was named champion in recess, the deal was that he would fight the new champion in his first fight back. He broke the deal and instead targeted an easier fight against the WBA champion and blatantly ducked the WBC champion he had promised to face.

You are saying Mikey didn't duck Linares instead of opting to fight someone else for reportedly more money but your not affording the same pass to Linares

How can you afford the same pass to Linares when Linares had a guaranteed fight against the WBC champion and ducked it over and over and over? All Linares has to do is ask for a purse bid. Then Mikey has to fight him or give up the belt. But instead of doing that, Linares insists that Mikey must sign with his promoter, or fight on HBO, or any other nonsense demands. It's a mandatory fight. None of this is necessary. Just go to purse bid. Linares took another fight, so Mikey took another fight. After that, the WBC is ordering a purse bid. As soon as they finally called Linares' bluff, now he suddenly wants to fight Loma. Linares has had four opportunities to fight for the WBC title since being named champion in recess and he's ducked it all four times and about to duck it a fifth time.

Linares stayed in the division so doesn't make any sense for him to lose a status once Figueroa moved out the division it made sense to keep Linares as full champion.

How can Linares be the champion when he keeps refusing to fight for the title over and over and over? The proof is in the pudding. Any time the WBC wants a purse bid, he takes another fight instead. If he really wants to fight Mikey, he is Mikey's mandatory. He can force the fight, yet he isn't. That tells you all you need to know.

I'm not even a Linares fan but I can see you are a big nutthugger

I'm an adult interested in intelligent conversation. Can you provide that? Nobody is "hugging nuts." Are you in middle school? Be honest. I couldn't care less one way or the other who Mikey fights. I respect his talent and knew he would dominate Broner, but I still rooted for Broner over him. My only interest in this thread is that you blatantly lied about who held the diamond title and then did a complete reversal on your views of the diamond title once you realized you were wrong about who held it.

That is the literal definition of "nuthugging."

Oh Garcia likes strawberries? **** strawberries. Oh, I was wrong and it's actually Linares that likes strawberries? I love strawberries then.


That's what you did.

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Linares will beat Loma convincingly.

Loma doesn’t have power like DeMarco, plus DeMarco himself wasn’t the same after they fought.

I got Linares with the faster hands, reach, power and experience.

Loma is the man for jumping weight class and taking the most dangerous fight out there. I got Linares with the upset though he really should be favorite.